Didn't I just see a commercial the other day about how Toyota is overly safe and overly protective? Hmmm, guess not so much now...

actually they are. the point is they noticed a problem and took means to correct it. unlike,say,ford explorer tires causing rollovers,cheaper to pay off families of victims than to correct,until forced to by a court.

There is going to be a lot of information that comes out in the next few months concerning this. Namely is it the ECU/ECT or the mats................we will see. As a Lexus owner I hope its the mats.

I meant to say ETC not ECT...............your welcome ;-)

Um, Patrick, the NHTSA discovered the issue, not Toyota. They then told Toyota who then issued a recall after the NHTSA advised everyone to remove the floor mats.

As for the Ford rollovers, just one of the many reasons why I haven't nor intend to buy a Ford. The bigger issue there which was never brought to light was the fact that the roofs were caving in. If it rolls over, the vehicle is suppose to be able to support its weight on the roof. Ford should be thankful that was never brought to light and Firestone ended up the scape goat.

Ford's problem wasn't the tires. My firm belief is the fact most SUV drivers don't actually pay any attention to how much air is in them. I've seen LOTS of big vehicles with way under inflated tires. Low air = higher tire stress and friction = tire failure.

I'm surprised the Camry doesn't have hook rings to hold the carpet in place, considering my 04 Corolla does....

Maybe it looks tacky, whatever. It does a fan-fucking-tastic job of keeping the mat exactly where it should be.

What exactly does this recall mean? It means free brand new drivers side mats!!! Yay!

Seriously, apart from that, not a big deal. Although I can just imagine the stealerships now;
"Um... we need to replace your driver side mat due to a recall. So we're gonna need your car for about an hour."

Holy horse pucks batman! TorqueReport finally fixed the comment system. This is the first time in months my posts haven't timed out. Now, let's see if this post times out...

I got my 2007 car and that time there was already a voluntary recall of the mat. However, I do not see any issue with it as the difference is not visible compare site by site. However the dealer replace for me before deliver the car. My sell person actually also gave me a set of clear mat for free. I notice if you place another mat, say a clear mat over your OE mate, then it make came loose easily in some cases. Cause the hooks will not able to secure the mat from moving. However the clear mat clearly stated not to use the product with other mat at the sometime. So I guess this may be easy fix?

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Firestone ended up the scape goat? Did you not read all of the tire separation problems that firestone had with itd off road tires? It wasn't just Ford SUV's other SUV's from other car companies had the same tire problems with those model of firestone tires that caused rollover's, but considering Ford and Firestone did a lot of business with each other back then the vast majority of those defective tires were placed on Ford SUV's because of it. Firestone was the main reason for those rollover’s, because the fact of the matter is if those tires were not defective then you wouldn't have heard anything about it rollover's .

I am not denying the fact that Firestone caused the rollovers. The deaths, however, where caused by roofs caving in after the roll overs. Again, a vehicle is suppose to be able to support its own weight on its roof. Those Ford vehicles weren't able to and as such, the roofs caved in causing people to be crushed to death. Ford got lucky Firestone ended up a scape goat. It wasn't the roll over that caused the deaths, it was the roofs caving in do to poor craftsmanship on Ford's part.

That was also right around the time of the F150 10th generation. Those were/are notorious for having someone rear end them and the bed caves into the cab/frame falls apart right in the middle. Before you say all trucks do that, my grandfather had a 1992 Chevy C/K parked in front of his house that a drunk rear ended at about 65-70 mph and sent it flying about 4 houses down the street. Only then did the bed start to cave into the cab like the F150 10th gen did. Besides, they still make GMT400s for some parts of the world, 10 years after it was discontinued here. And then Ford still had issues with cabin fires. Again, no thanks.

Well I have a 2009 toyota and I already have taken the car for an engine light and they said it was nothing also the Radio turns off by itself and not able to change stations is frustrating. I have also noticed that the part where it shifts gears gets hot is this normal too can someone please help.

Well I have a 2009 toyota and I already have taken the car for an engine light and they said it was nothing also the Radio turns off by itself and not able to change stations is frustrating. I have also noticed that the part where it shifts gears gets hot is this normal too can someone please help.

That reminds me of the Honda's that melt the keys in the ignition Jez. In fact, a professor of mine came into class one day complaining that her key melted right off in the ignition and was stuck there. Other thing that urks me about some recent Honda's, no key hole in the passenger side door. What happens if your power locks die or the battery to your remote is dead and you need to get something out on the passenger side? /rant

Anyway, sorry you are having a hard time with your new car.

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I own a toyota, and for what its worth, go do a search on the 4runner blog, there is also a concern that toyota has made poor performing roofs that have shown to collapse. Any car will have a roof collapse if you roll it at 75+ MPH, its not an issue with fords, its an issue with many cars....otherwise you would never see a roll cage in a car. An explorer can support its own weight on its roof, but when you hurl that beast at 75 mph and have it roll many times, eventually its gonna collapse, same as any other car