"Driving a large car is so "un-cool" now."

Really? To me, you always looked like a moron driving a tank for no reason other than to imitate some idiot rapper.

Maybe people buy large cars because they'(the people) are large. Fat americans need lots of room to get their hips between the center console and the door.

The average woman in the US is 5'4" and weighs 163. That's freaking fat. Lose weight people, it'll save you money on gas.

Is this a concept car or supposedly what the production version is probably going to look like?

A twin turbo v6 sounds cool, it'll suffer reliability from those turbos though.

Bring back the 5.0!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It's going to look smaller, but not actually be smaller?
What kind of fake-ass news is this?

That thing is f*cking hideous!

cheap your retarded. The 5.0 engine is based in the 50s and is too rough and polluting to work in modern times. The turbos will make the car slightly less reliable such as turbos on a sti make it slightly less reliable. Id welcome the 350 hp tt v6 although I perfer the 5.0 cammer making 450 na.

"The Challenger on the other hand is over ten inches longer than the current Mustang, but the Camaro concept is actually shorter than the Mustang."

That says it all. American muscle car buyers are compensating for their penile inadequacies.

@ Tommy Boy

well said. And what about american truck buyers? Small trunks, i suppose?

You can say whatever you want about Americans, but the fact is; if you live in another country you probably have us to thank for the level of freedom you enjoy in your pathetic little country. There is more jealousy than horse power on this website.

"Keep hating us:
You can say whatever you want about Americans, but the fact is; if you live in another country you probably have us to thank for the level of freedom you enjoy in your pathetic little country. There is more jealousy than horse power on this website."

Truth.

@ unknown

I wasn't saying to bring back the old engine in it's entirety, I was saying thy should make a new 5.0. The roughness is part of what I loved about it. Nothing sounded better than the old 5.0.

Ohh, and I am an american. I'm a 6 foot tall male american who weighs the same as the average woman. That's disgusting.
The added pounds everyone is carrying around are really hurting gas consumption and emissions. If people really cared about global warming they could return to a normal weight and it'd probably drop emissions by 10%. They wouldn't need as much electricity to keep them A/C cool through their layers of warm blubber either.

The thing that really bothers me is their increased medical cost as a result of their self-induced health problems (as a result of being fat: heart disease, high blood pressure, diabetes, falling down more often because it's hard to hold all that weight up) are really taxing the rest of the population with increased medical premiums to keep their arteries from clogging and natural selection from doing it's thing.

"Ohh, and I am an american. I'm a 6 foot tall male american who weighs the same as the average woman. That's disgusting.
The added pounds everyone is carrying around are really hurting gas consumption and emissions. If people really cared about global warming they could return to a normal weight and it'd probably drop emissions by 10%. They wouldn't need as much electricity to keep them A/C cool through their layers of warm blubber either.

The thing that really bothers me is their increased medical cost as a result of their self-induced health problems (as a result of being fat: heart disease, high blood pressure, diabetes, falling down more often because it's hard to hold all that weight up) are really taxing the rest of the population with increased medical premiums to keep their arteries from clogging and natural selection from doing it's thing."

Since when did TTR become an outlet for those concerned about others overall health? 10% reduced emissions? Thats a bit of a stretch.

a. I'm not a fan of that nose.

b. bring on the TT V6's.

c. Letting a reporter tell you what is and isn't "cool" is about as smart as letting your mother tell you. (If your mother happens to be cool, then make that my mother.)

I'm not sure how I feel about making something "small looking" vs "actually small"... and I'm particularly unsure how I feel about doing something to make a car "seem" fuel efficient other than actually making it fuel efficient.

And BTW (as an American). If you are American, you can thank the French for your freedom.

Looks pretty good IMO. Should go up against the Camaro much better than the current design. Lets hope they give us a turbo 4 ,v8, and tt v6 option... I for one also loved the sound of the 5.0, but I'd like the options to have a turbo instead of extra cylinders.

To Sabby and Keep hating us:
"You can say whatever you want about Americans, but the fact is; if you live in another country you probably have us to thank for the level of freedom you enjoy in your pathetic little country. There is more jealousy than horse power on this website."

What is that??? You just proved the point of everyone you try to insult... If your proud of your extra 90lbs in your belly and your 9mpg vus, don't go blame it on the people of the country that you "liberated", because they most likely don't have enough money to buy food to survive.

I think that the American's taste for big trucks and big engines is pure irresponsability in the current environmental situation. Oh, and I'm Canadian. So our country is bigger than the US, defenitely has the same amount of freedom as the US (if not even more) and we absolutely do not have to thank the US for that. Hell, you even tried to invade us once, and it was a so complete failure that our people had to give your soldiers food so they could make it through the winter and go home the next spring...

Damn, thats one sweet ride.

"Driving a large car is so "un-cool" now". Ford knows this and is going to make its next-generation 2010 Mustang look smaller.

Nothing like a little media bias to give the brainless their opinion. Look smaller? So that means it won't be smaller. It's beginning to NOT look like a Mustang to me.

Thanks, I'll take the Challenger and blow them into the weeds. At least it runs like its burning gas.

This thread is too funny, health care, history, personal freedom and international relations...maybe we could have our presidential candidates discuss their opinions on the new Mustang, it might lead to some meaningful debate for once!

IT looks like the "retro" Mustang of 2005 decided to look modern, because the original mustang look was too retro, but the F-body look was too modern.

Thus:

I dub this the modern retro copy of a retro modern retro mustang. Got all that?

Thought this posting was for car opinions, not political country bashing. Hey, I'm game!!!

I'm a full blood American. I realized late in life that history books are written by the conquerors. Canada? What we are taught is that yall are a big ol country that doesn't take full advantage of your potential, and was a haven for all the draft doggers from my country. As it turns out, around the 1770's, France thru Canada supplied America with nearly 90% of the munitions and supplies for the war effort for us to (supposedly) defeat Britian. Why? Cause the French and British were enemies. Guess our "10%" came from us doing the actual fighting/dying, huh.

Americans were taught in schools that we defeated England. Truth of the matter was, England as frugal as they are by nature, decided after all that help started flowing into America, that it was too expensive to support the colonies, and cut us loose to save themselves.

Pick up a copy of Don't Know Much About History. Interesting reading.

strange, they let the other Indians only go after 1945.

i dont know if it because of the fat lady in the back, but is this car Civic sized?
If yes, i'll take one with Fords exellent 4-pot diesel.

Fat americans we may be
In the land across the sea
Just because we're plump and happy
Their eurotrash gums get flappy

I think people start country bashing when the post has no relevant value. So the only "news" this contains is that Ford is not going to make the Mustang shorter. Wow, great thanks, next.

I'm an American. I am not overweight, and I do not drive a gas guzzling truck/suv.

It's odd, but for the first time since 1965 the Mustang actually looks like a car instead of an ugly relic. (The previous version got close.) Of course "small" is relative and it's certainly not a gas miser either. So maybe the pressure from the economy and the market slump are finally good for something.

The idea of offering ttv6 and /or a turbo 4 would be appropriate in this economy. It does not look like fuel prices will be returning to normalcy any time soon. I remember when the Mustang II came out in the Seventies which was drastically smaller as the result of the fuel crunch back then. Funny how history repeats itself, only now Ford has some decent engines to balance out economy/performance.

@ Ford

Your Mustang looks like a ripoff of the new Camaro that was a ripoff of the Mustang, and on and on.

@ CCL

You proudly announce you are the same weight as a woman? Nice. Good luck with your next period. And global warming is a complete sham by the liberal left. Read up on it before posting back. Douche.

@ FK

You have the same freedom in Canada as the US? Socialized medicine. Yeah, there's a great idea. You can't even legally get DirecTV! Bitches.

@ WVO

Thank you for the history lesson. Hopefully the eurofags read and understood it.

@ Democratic National Committee

Thank you for the laughs. You can't even elect a candidate properly because you are so busy following your political correctness bullshit, you trapped yourselves. Ha! Thank Howard Dean for that mess. And if any of you posters are lefties, eat me. Bitches.

I'm surprised that Ford doesn't throw in a powerful twin-turbo 4 cylinder. Provided that the new chassis is light enough, I'm sure that a powerful enough 4 cylinder engine would appease about 50% of the people that buy this car. Let's admit it, half of the people that buy a mustang buy it for the looks or the name, not to drag race it. I see more 18 year old girls and 40 year old secretaries driving mustangs around than anyone else, and I doubt they can really notice the power band difference between a 3.7 V6 or a 2.5litre, I know that I probably wouldn't care myself, but i'm not a huge car buff either.

The lancer GTS is a comparable car in terms of dimensions (not too sure about weight), and I know lots of people happy with the 2.5litre engine in it. Then you can have a V6 version for those that want it.

I may be way off though.

Rich you said something about medicine, just look this movie The Awful Truth and you will see everything you want to know

A 4 cylinder?What are you guys? Fairies?

My truck could already run a Mustang over, so it's a good thing they're not making it smaller.

It's a Ford anyways, so it's not worth driving. I'd rather push my truck. Chevy rules!

All you pansies are worried about gas and emissions. Whats the matter with you? I love burning gas. I took the cats off of my truck just to make it sound awesome too. Global warming is an investment machine to make left-wingers rich.

You should all go buy Z71's. You know why?
V8's rule, steaks and fatty foods rule, americans rule, 4x4's rule, and Chevy rules. W is the man and the rest of you fags can blow me.

I hate to tangent from the historical and political discussion but....

I don't like the front-end. If I was guessing, I would say that they hired a front-end designer guy from Dodge and assigned him to this. The leaning forward front-end is trying too hard to be aggressive. I do like the fact that they made the rear fenders a bit more aggressive. The current design is a straight-line and it is kind of lacking in style in this area.

So, a mixed bag.

Now back to whey the Americans didn't win the revolutionary war and how it was all caused by global warming.

@jake:
I think the picture posted was the Pininfarina design exercise that made the rounds this past year. So it may not be a fair assessment of what the next Mustang will look like. I do know that Ford likes the glass roof , so that is now an option.

"GM's announcement today that it will close four SUV and pickup-truck plants--and possibly stop building Hummers--is a startling turnaround for Detroit's biggest automaker. The car companies routinely speed up or slow down assembly lines to tweak the mix of big and small vehicles consumers seem to be most interested in. But shutting down several production lines, and possibly killing off an iconic brand, signal a long-term retrenchment. The plants GM is closing produce 700,000 vehicles, about 40 percent of the company's output."

I dont' know if you can have a large ultra modern looking car called mustang. Look at the eclispe. When they went from small modern looking car to large modern looking car with v6 no one would buy it. It just looked to heavy and slow. I think the mustang has to look lean and light like a Ferrari or Murcialago or other super car. Those are relatively large cars and it doesn't play against them. I think you can shrink the mustang to the level of a 350z. That could work. Make the ttv6 really rev and give it high hp. You'd have a really different mustang from the past that could show the versatility of the brand.

it has some evo influences in the front.

@ Pinkskin

That movie is directed by the communist fat shitbag everyone here is bitching about. Why don't you go to Canada and blow a mountie? Fuck Canada, and you too.

@ Z71

Fuck liberals and global warming! (now called climate change)
Yeehaaww!!

Git 'er done!

Gawd, you all are pathetic.

@Garrett

Twin Turbo 4 cylinders aren't very practical for daily driving as you wouldn't have enough exhaust flow to get decent low end and good top end. Single turbo is about all you can do with a 4 cylinder. VW had a Turbo/Supercharged 4 cylinder but I'm not sure it ever went into production. Sticking to a single turbo on a 4 is the best option.

Rich has talked more about gay sex in this one post than I have ever heard in my life,you know what they say about obsessions.

History should repeat itself.

Kill off the current Mustang platform, and rework the Miata platform to look like a Mustang.

Voila, the Mustang II (again).

Wow, i actually like the looks of this Mustang, good job Ford, to bad GM still owns you.

@Gary

Thanks for the clear up. I'm sure a good turbo 4 cylinder would do most just fine.

Ford seems to be going in the direction of this Ecoboost engine design, so maybe they should follow suit with this. Didn't they just start installing 4 cylinder Ecoboost engines into the Escape to up the power and fuel economy?

Blame your countries. Lets face it the world leaders of the first world countries all knew about the warning signs of oil cost when 2nd world countries like China and India once were 20 years ago started to become developing first world countries like today. They knew once these countries with giant populations started to use oil as much as the first world countries do, it was going to drive up the cost of oil, but none of them did anything about it to develope new fuel technologies so that the nations could be prepaird for something like this long in advance. All thethe politians cared about back then was how much money they could get from oil industry in kick backs. I mean it's only now that the first world countries are finally starting to develope alternitive fuel technology because of the large amounts of outrage due to gas prices, but it's to little to late. Anything that will take the place of oil at a large scale will take another 20 to 30 years to mass produce.

@ Rich you are stupid, yes the movie is true even Cuba has better medicine.

MI HRVATI!!

Wow, this might be the best TTR thread ever! (The sarcasm is so thick I could cut it with a big fat steak knife).

I suppose I could put my $0.02 cents in here, and since I'm American I shall:

Well I don't blame it all on the left or the right, the fairie tree huggers, or really anyone for that matter. I think it all comes back to the one basic evil of capitalism, greed. Corporate CEO's are greedy, politicians are greedy, and then there is OPEC....(who the f came up with that idea, in the states we call it a MONOPOLY). Car companies have been giving us what has been selling, big and heavier cars. I would LOVE to have my Corolla weight in under 2000lbs, but thanks to the left and a bunch of other people we have airbags, stability control, and probably not before to long something that will turn my car into a giant cannoli.

My only really comment to the rest of the world, "You don't even see the forest for the trees do you? I'm living your future, so you will be too."

India, China, the rest of the cut rate 1st/2nd world nations, who do you think you are going to learn from? Who taught the rest of the world how to modernize (America, and in some semblance Japan...)? Who has pushed technology (America, and Japan)? Who has created a society that is propagating around the world (America....sorry)? And what do you think will happen to China once their level of living goes up? People are going to get fat, and it'll be us all over again. Who will have figured out the answer to that problem, us.
Buy a clue, we are on the cutting edge, and it sucks.

@Garret

I haven't seen any release about it, but that would be a decent car to put it as an option since it's already Ford's Greenist car. That or perhaps in the base & mid model mustangs instead of a low MPG V6.

"blame it all on the left or the right"

"one basic evil of capitalism"

-Brian

There is no left or right, that's merely an illusion to make Joe Average think he has a choice or that his opinion matters.

True capitalism works better than anything in the history of mankind...but of course we don't have true capitalism in our current world thanks to government intervention through corporate lobbyists. Take away this intervention and companies would fight for your dollar with better service in everything from your DSL/cable connection to your health insurance premiums.

@ Brian

I think most of us wish our cars were lighter, thus enhancing economy, and performance. But, unfortunately, there is thing called physics, and inertia, and if you have ever seen a little car in an accident, I am glad the cars are heavier. More steel, and structural rigidity, etc.

@ Pinkskin and Patrick

Blow me. And, oh yeah, Fuck Cuba, too. If you believe that Micheal Moore shit, you and Pink have proven how brainwashed you are by the mainstream media and liberal left and Al Gore. Fuck him, too.

@Rich:

While I'd agreee with most of your first comment, I would also like to see some manufacturers offer a base model car without 27 airbags, electronic stability, traction, brake distribution, 30 way power seats, etc... Some of these options add a good deal of weight and development to the cars and are only good for extreme conditions that happen once every couple of years. If people would learn better driving skills we wouldn't need 500lbs of electronics to protect us in our cars. In my 15+ years of driving I've never been in an accident that required me to have airbags. I'm sure some people have and they have also saved lives but it should be an option I can leave off if I want to.

Let it me choose to protect myself and fatten my wallet instead of hauling around useless electronics I'll never use.

I love Gary
But not because he's hairy
he's actually got some intellect
enough to make me go er....

I love Brian too
he's got a head on his shoulders
he pays your taxes for you
so don't bury him under a boulder

Im sorry but gary is more correct. Ive been in serval accidents myself none being my fault. Ive been in the hospital because I was rear ended in a car that was built in the 70s. I couldnt walk when I was hit but the dude that hit me with his civic was just fine. Biggers cars are only safer hitting smaller cars. Smaller cars with less weight will have less momentum against the object its hitting and bigger cars more because of the more weight. If your suv was travelling 50 mph and hit a tree youd probably be dead or very badly injured but a driver in say a corolla would be hurt but probably not dead. you can do alot to improve the strength of a structure without adding weight to it.

ford is the only american brand i think has a style team that deserves there pay, the others chevy, dodge stink...

Ford realizing it again? Really? Didn't they go through this already with the 4 cylinder mustang?

Why this gas thing was such a surprise to the American car companies is beyond me. I hope they are more inspired this time around and produce some truly nice compacts / subcompacts.

Oh WAIT, they do have those in Europe, but we Americans can't even get a proper Focus. F U Ford, you suck.

Brain the ignorant part of you comments were blaming it on America for the reason why countries like China and India will turn into America. That's not America's doing that's called the luxury of livng in a first world society where everything is at your grasp and is easily affordable.

Anything over 100hp in a car is overkill.
I bought a small car for wife/me, and large breasts for wife/me

OK this has to be the worst looking mustang they have ever come out with, I have always lovd mustangs but this looks to much like a dodge and that just ruins it but since this is a con