I'm sure its fast but man thats one ugly ricer.

get used to the rear thats the only thing youre gonna see anyways

With 480 hp and a faster time on the Nuremburgring than both the Porsche 911 Turbo and Corvette Z06, the GT-R deserves a little more than being called a "ricer," Megadeth.

I'm sorry megadeth, you seem to be confused on what a ricer is...

A Skyline GTR.... has never been a ricer.

Nor will ever be.

No doubt about it's power. I am still not feeln' the over-all look/design though... It just seems kind of odd and "too" angular.

It may not be a ricer but it is rather ugly.

im an anti ricer abut i love this car

like the looks think cuz its more funciton over form

and it tears thru heII faster than a naked child molester in the prison shower

ugly, looks like an adolescent penned it in 8th grade study hall.

Wow, this thing must've taken the record for biggest front air intake ever.

The radiator and intercooler will have no shortage of airflow, that's for sure.

The production version looks much cleaner then that prototype.

personally i kinda like the look of the car...and the track times this car is posting are amazing

I have to agree on the less than desirable looks. However, Japanese automobiles have never turned my head in terms of design styling.
I wonder what it sounds like though, and what the in-depth specs are going to be on the engine. Anyone know of the proposed rev limit? Some of the photos of the dash make it look like 7 grand, but I haven't heard anything.
Drag Coefficient been released? Maybe there is some under-body work we haven't seen yet either (190+mph does tend to need some aerodynamic work).

I cant comment on the v spec but the normal gtr will have a redline of 6800 rpm. I seriously doubt that this car will be able to brake 200 mph with its weight and power I just dont see that happening.
The only thing that really bothers me about nissans new performance cars is how they just like to make them look the same. The g37 g35 350z and now the gtr all look alike and thats just boring in terms of styling. But I can say this there will be alot of crashed gtr's in the fist year.

Looks like a 350z with a bad body kit; the kind a 16 year old might put on their car. I had high hopes, but maybe it will look better in person.

Performance does not seem to be a question.

Looks like it got hit with the ugly stick, id take the 911 turbo or Z06 over this anyday, even if they are slower.

I like Nissan vehicles in general... but I'm not a fan of this design.

For the money paid, I would rather have a 911, or Vette as well any day, over the GTR, even if it's fast.

Good thing this is a "future version" and has time to change, and grow into a swan, and not stay the ugly duckling.

Uncle_c:
'I have to agree on the less than desirable looks. However, Japanese automobiles have never turned my head in terms of design styling.'

and you think that American cars have? imo they have always been big square boats with big engines, only now that companies like GM and Dodge have invested in European automakers have their styling improved..

sad... lazy people are the biggest critics... also, chances are that is not the final body. don't you think after seeing the 350z and past and present models that chances are the panels will be more flush and smooth... speaking of an 8th grader penning this design i think its likely that same 8th grader left most of these comments...

Personally, I like to mean angular lines of the car. I also like that it doesn't resemble any other supercar. It is no swan, but to me that is part of the appeal ( function over form). Unfortunately, my budget constraints allow me to consider this car in my daydreams.

Function over form would be fine however that not the case here it's an excuse for eclectic Japanese designers. It looks like the male version of the R8. It also amazing how everything in nature that is fast is streamline and elegant. Why because evolution favors the most successful forms.

That car is insanely ugly. The front looks like a 350z with it's mouth open wide.

The car looks decent, still not as nice as the G37 or even M sedans. Those cars are probably the best looking cars Nissan has at the moment, and even they look kinda sub-par in terms of design. At least it doesn't look like some retro pile that GM, Ford, or Dodge is spewing out.

Perhaps the best looking Skyline was the R33. It looked so bland that it was hard no to appreciate the design.

Excellent car overall, but the front design could be better. As I said before it's very fast but it needs to lose some weight. Sadly the only way to do this may be to dump the AWD for RWD. I know some ppl would see that as blasphemy but it would be faster on acceleration (after 60 or so) and top end trap speeds.

ppl like to compare to Corvette. some numbers:

GT-R, 3800lb/480hp = 7.9 lb/hp
Base Corvette 3200lb/430hp = 7.4 lb/hp
Z06, 3200lb/505hp = 6.3 lb/hp
ZR1, 3200(?)lb/650hp = 4.9 lb/hp

The GT-R may theoretically have better traction out of the corners due to AWD, but will it make up for a whopping 600lb weight difference? Even the base Corvette at 45-50K has a better power-to-weight ratio. It will be very interesting when the car mags compare them in a shootout. The GT-R posted some very fast unofficial Nurburgring times, but I want official numbers with a street setup. Of course I'd take a Gallardo over either of these :P

To those who says this car is ugly, what do you drive? Don't be shy, tell me.

Kell:

The base corvette is around 3400lbs unless it has lost weight for 08'

I have also heard that those unofficial times may be a quite a few ticks slower than the production times. Rumor has it that the engine was boosting a little high and delivering over 500hp. Hopefully it was an honest test and just German BS.

I also wouldn't be surprise if Nissan is loosing money on each one they sell just for bragging rights.

Did anyone happen to mention that the GT-R styling is function over form, they weren't worried so much about how the car looked but how aerodynamic it was and how much drag it produced and where, that's why it's not the most amazing "looking" car you've ever seen

purpose over looks is what I always said..... besides when automaker shapes a car for speed purposes it's bound to look fast anyway... look at enzo or caparo t1....

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Uncle_c:
'I have to agree on the less than desirable looks. However, Japanese automobiles have never turned my head in terms of design styling.'

and you think that American cars have? imo they have always been big square boats with big engines, only now that companies like GM and Dodge have invested in European automakers have their styling improved..[/quote]

Yeah n1zm0 you're right. Ask Chrysler what they got out of Daimler. Oh yeah. Mass losses of profit, horrible reliability, underpowered cars (the new Hemi is complete crap), unmodifiable cars, and they tanked that company from the most profitable car company in the world to what we have today. Great job the European ways of doing things did for them huh? They can ruin their own stuff, leave ours alone.

I love the back end, makes it look like a skyline.

Why are we arguing about other people's opinions? So one person likes Japanese styling, another doesnt. Big deal. That's why we have more than one company making cars, because we have different tastes. Jeez..

I honestly don't like this design, but I wasn't ever really that interested in it anyway. Though in all honesty I would choose a better-styled car over a "faster" car. If you're going to be driving it on the roads, there isnt really much reason to have a super fast car. You can't go that much faster than that speed limit regardless of where you are, unless you enjoy having your liscence revoked, especially with speed cameras being considered. It isnt like computers where better components actually contribute toward usable performance.

I miss the old skylines... The new design just doesn't do it for me, not like the 1999 and older.

I miss the old skylines... The new design just doesn't do it for me, not like the 1999 and older.

I have to admit that it I did not care for the design originally. Like a wart, it is growing on me ; ). The rims look like an updated knock off of the old 911 rims. The performance is likely to smear Marilyn Mansons makeup from half a continent away. I would love to give this thing a drive.

I liked the R34 generation best. I'd take an '02 M-Spec Nur over this 9 times out of 10. That I-6 is good for over 1000HP when properly tuned.

Like it or not, this is a CAR with enough tech and quality.

Why throw with mud in ricers when even europeans have cars with that huge mouth.Don't forget masserati, or mitsu evo x on the asian side.That big mouth it's there for a reason... to give more airflow to the engine... dunno why...but i am expecting over 600hp from this "little" beast.BTW... for a car with 3800lb don't you think it has a fast 0-60mph? Please show me a car with a small engine compared with those american tanks and so heavy that is scoring those lap times.The GTR engineers were always some of the best you can get. The gtr has and have the most complex system of AWD in the world... with 4 wheels to turn....and a system of independent traction... you can have AWD or RWD any time... you just push a button and .. voila. Besides... gtr 32,33 and 34 were monsters in tuning... from a 2.5-2.6L.... inline six engine to drain over 1000hp... it's quite a thing don't you think?
I really would love to see a Spec -V Skyline gtr-34 results on Nurburgring... I bet It beats the hell out an Z06.... so... my expectations for this car...are very high...and I think I will not be disappointed.
Thumb up for the GTR engineers.

@John P:
"Why are we arguing about other people's opinions? So one person likes Japanese styling, another doesnt. Big deal. That's why we have more than one company making cars, because we have different tastes. Jeez.."

You are wise.

@GT-R
"To those who says this car is ugly, what do you drive? Don't be shy, tell me."

... Not so much.

Not sure what your question has to do with other people's opinions regarding the aesthetics.

But since you asked, a Bentley Continental GT Speed, and Mercedes E550 among them.
Some like their designs, some don't its a matter of personal choice & taste (in some cases budget).

I'm just stating my opinion that I'm not a huge fan of this particular spy photo of the skyline.
While their current vehicles look great in comparison.

Also what do you care, that other people call it ugly, or dislike the design?
Did you pen the design yourself, and you found their comments offensive?

It's all personal preference, if you love it, that's great!
If you don't that's great too!
Different strokes for different folks.

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@ Enzo:
"I really would love to see a Spec -V Skyline gtr-34 results on Nurburgring... I bet It beats the hell out an Z06.... "

7:42 Corvette Z06 (C6)
7:56 Chevrolet Corvette C5 Z06
7:59 Nissan Skyline GT-R R33
8:01 Nissan Skyline GT-R R33

@MCarp22,

You realize those are times posted for the base R33 Skyline GT-R. The upper models are the V-spec and M-Spec. You should also compare the R34 to the C6 as they were built at the same time.

Keep in mind, the R34 Nur-Spec held the *unofficial fastest lap time for a production car at Nurburgring. In oder to have a rumor like that sustained, the car would at least be competing with the top fastests lap times, not the lowly ZO6's 7:42.

You can maybe try comparing models within the same class next time... Wow, like did you think no one would catch that? Man, you're stupid. The good thing is it's here immortalized in forum postings, so everyone can see that you're an idiot.

@ Enzo:
"I really would love to see a Spec -V Skyline gtr-34 results on Nurburgring... I bet It beats the hell out an Z06.... "

gtr ran a 7:38 with a test mule that was supposedly putting out over 500 because it was running more boost. so a 4sec diff on a 20 mile track Im sure somone can make that up.
Both the evo x and maserati are not known for their great looking styles so dont bring those up. As well I have serious doubts that this engine will be a great tuning engine because as with all the new nissan engines are being made in france so not the best casting matierals for them

I find it funny that probably more than half of you NEVER heard of the Skyline GT-R before Gran Turismo. And I bet none of you saw the exhibition when Nissan and Honda pitted the old GT500 against DTM cars on the Nurburg and the V8s could hardly keep up with the Japanese V6 machines. I love DTM and BTCC but to see fast cars being taken out by extremely fast cars was exciting. Especially since DTM and the old GT500 class chassis are built to about the same spec.

to the guy that called this baby ugly...... go check your eyes out dude you got a serious problem, the thing is beautiful fullstop!

It looks like the styling was borrowed from the Audi R8. http://z.about.com/d/cars/1/0/k/U/Audi_R8_front.jpg

@RB:
Ehm, either I am blind, or you are stupid? I fail to see any significant common ground.

built to about the same spec? check the riles and you will see they are different classes. doesnt matter if they are v6s vs v8s. isnt there a v8 used in some of the gt500 supras?
as for weight specs of the corvette- http://autos.msn.com/research/vip/spec_Exterior.aspx?year=2008&make=Chevrolet&model=Corvette&trimid=-1

@Jason

Those times that I posted were the best i could find from compellations of nordschliefe times posted on the web. The R34 times that I could find were listed as being on slick tires, and I was trying to represent times on regular road car tires. I'd be sure that the R34 was a bit quicker than the C5 Z06, but i doubt even the top spec ones ran much quicker than 7:50 or so.

The R34 stopped production in 2002, and the C6 started production in 2005.

As for the R34 holding the "fastest unofficial lap time". Nobody every says what the actual lap time is. Back in 2002 cars weren't quite as fast as they are now in this awesome horsepower war.

the 7.38 time was accomplished with special slicks and extra boost. Give the Z06 just the special tires(wouldnt need any mods) and it would easily trump the 7.38

I love the styling, and the performance should be great, but i seriously doubt it beats a z06(the ZR1 will trounce it), 3800 lbs is far too much to overcome, not to mention it is at a power disadvantage. The GTR can't defy physics. I weighs 600lbs more, has 25 less hp, it will get walked down in any race with a z06, im sure it will get the jump with awd, but soon after that the z06 will blow by it. To get the 0-60 times promised by Nissan, you will have to abuse the he!! outa that 80k car!

With all that said, i would love to have one, i would just know better than to pick a race with a z06 that goes much past 40 mph. the interior of the GTR is sweet, it had polyphony(people who make the video game Grand Turismo) design the center info screen layout. I can't wait till they are on the lots!

@dr:

Pretty cool info on Polyphony. I had no idea that they were involved with the center screen layout. For many, the GT games were the only exposure America had of the Skylines. The GTR will appeal to those people . I do tire of the GTR versus the Z06 debate. I just do no think that Corvette owners would cross shop with the GTR and vice versa. Both cars are exceedingly fast and well executed, but go about speed in different ways. Same the comparisons for the magazines or the race track. I would love to have either one in my driveway.

you guys are stupid fighing over the way the car looks you remind me of idiots that give there cars names of girls... haha get a life its not going to matter how ugly it is if its flying by you at 200 mph. i could say the interior of the corvett os the same quality as a cobalt and the GTR uses the same plastics as a sentra. its a car thats all its not even a supercar because a supercar makes no concessions for performance and this thing has back seats. its proboably a awesome sports car but not a supercar (Ascari A10, enzo, carrera GT) its just a car and when you see one of these bad boys get burnt by a Yamaha R1 then you will realize it is not that special cant say that about a Konigsegg CCX/R

"...and when you see one of these bad boys get burnt by a Yamaha R1 then you will realize it is not that special..."

Ahhh yes. I imagine that comment will inspire a lot of flaming on a site like this. But it's always fun to think a $10,000 sportbike will smoke these cars backwards. And more than "just in a straight line", as most car guys will say.

Road and track speed actually had a good car v. bike shootout 2 years ago, with a showroom-stock 600 (ZX-6) vs a stock corvette ("600cc vs 6000cc") and a lightly track prepped ZX-10r vs. a pimped 470'ish HP Skyline. They wanted to put an end to the whole 'bikes are only faster in a straight line' debate. To everyone's surprise, the bike's raped the cars. And this was on a 'curvy' track. By the end of the day, the ZX-6 was besting the vette by 10sec. a lap, and the ZX-10, by 2.8 - 3 sec. a lap. Ouch.

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@ Jamison

You are the 1 confused by what "rice" means!!!!

Rice Rocket, Rice Burner: are names created to be
a derogatory remark towards autos and motorcycles being manufactured by companies that originated in
Japan or other Asian countries.
A "ricer" is a person that rides or drives one of those vehicles.

The definition has been changed over the internet by the owners of Asian sport cars like the RX- 7, 300zx,
Supra, NSX, etc, to try and separate themselves from the poser Civic, Corolla, driving crowd that fixed their cars up to look fast but did nothing to the drivetrain or the suspension.

"ricer" "rice" "rice burner"

All of these terms derive from a sad attempt by American domestic car fans to put down people who are fans of "sport-compact" cars.

The best price/performance cars are, usually, made by companies in the orient. These cars also tend to have better handling characteristics.

The funny thing is that having ones culture include whole grains is a good thing. It helps your digestive function, and overall health.

Quite the contrast to the mentality Americans typically have towards diet and automobiles.

Ok then, it's a Super-Ricer, allso why care about how it looks, it's a go car not a show car.