if it can't protect you from a claymore under the floorboards, it's not a hummer. get this garbage off the streets and into a metal recycling plant.

Metal?!? It's probably mostly plastic!

"""MW:
Metal?!? It's probably mostly plastic!"""

touche

I agree with you both.

I agree with you both.

You can't have military strength, high economy, and cheap at the same time. Pick 2 of 3.

Won't this brand just die already? How many guys in the US do we have that need to purchase cars for penis extensions? There is just no practical need for a Hummer and they are a complete and total waste of resources.

I'm sure this thing will get rushed out full steam ahead and cars like the Volt are going to take 4+ years to actually materialize. Seems pretty lame to me.

Then stay in the past as the world passes you by. The concept is great, if what GM claims is true, it is mimicking the old jeep days of open air off-roading. I applaud GM for keeping the iconic look of the H1, but the old tin can needs a good face lift, one better then the last two attempts. If you don't like it, dont buy it, but don't pass judgment on another's imagination, especially if you have not proven your own prowess for creative flare like these three and other designers like them have.

Smaller is obviously the right direction for this brand because it can't get much bigger and still fit on a road. They should take this concept and shrink it down even more.

Stop calling it a Hummer, do a little retro sheet metal/plastic shifting and call it what it is K-5 Blazer, and jump on the nostalgia train.

Daniel, come on. It's not the aesthetic design of these vehicles that displeases most people. It's the fact that there is absolutely no discernible reason why someone would need a behemoth like this. Oh sure, the women driving them and their children will be safe from everything (short of a claymore), but what about the forward thinking drivers of reasonably sized vehicles? Should people in small, economically feasible cars be utterly destroyed when the inevitable collision with an F350 or H2 occurs?

No. Staying in the past is believing that gas won't hit $5 a gallon. It will. You're crazy if you think it won't. Demand is already outreaching supply, and this isn't even considering that the Chinese industrial/social economy is growing exponentially. Buy your Hummer and be sorry in a few years.

And by the way, flex fuel is ridiculous. Unrealistic. A propaganda machine. Paraphrasing from a reputable source; If ethanol were to completely replace fossil fuels as our primary source of fuel for vehicles, there wouldn't be enough agricultural surface area on the planet to support it.

Subsidize the electric/hybrid/fuel cell industry and buy something really imaginative: A car that doesn't completely rely on a resource that is quickly dwindling.

You don't think it will be so quick? What is quick?

Quick enough so that the consequences of our communal ignorance as a country probably won't affect us...but certainly our children.

GM and a few other car makers are pushing into the direction you are seeking, but to be honest, you and your little car can do nothing for me. I have 7 children, and you tell me how I can fit them into a prius or any of the other electric hybrid vehicles. Sure, I can go out and buy a 15 passenger van, but for what, the gas ratings on cargo bodies are outrageously low, and now GM is offering an alternative to those of us who care about the environment but cant fit into pinto. Though 24 mpg is not stunning, the new hybrid tahoe gives me a chance to make a dent in helping and saving some money.

I would love to own one of the new hybrid spots cars that are hitting the market, or one of the new hydrogen vehicles, the only problem is, when you first build something, you build it for the general populace, and what the world governments say is a normal family unit, 2 adults and 2-2.5 children. I am way out of that category, so I can not enjoy the 30-50mpgs of a compact car.

One last thing, its not hard to avoid a monster as big as an F-350, but think of the man who says no vehicle is better then walking, you would destroy that man in the monster of a prius if you hit him while he is walking down the street, another mans hero, is another mans monster, and visa versa.

I'm totally disgusted with the whole Hummer brand name anyway, and this doesn't do anything to improve their image IMO. Hummers are all about "pimps" and "soccer moms" now who only want to cruise around on their 22's with 7 TV's and the back full of kids (or speakers, or both). For a "truck" that's supposed to be so badass offroad, when was the last time anyone's seen one off-pavement? When 16yr old Johnny gets his mom's H2 dirty out behind the mall parking lot, that's all. I say if they want something to compete with Jeep, bring back the gnarly H1, in flat OD green or camo, with vinyl buckets, no carpet, cloth top and doors, and a standard snorkel. I would be first in line! Oh, but the "pimps" and "soccer moms" would never fork over $50k for such an abomination, an therein lies my disgust with the once great Hummer brand name.

just get a H1 and you will have a real hummer.

You have 7 children, well good for you. Most people in America do not have 7 children, but many have other excesses. This hummer will do nothing for you, but a minivan sure would - and there are several that seat 7. Also, if you're driving around in a 2-ton behemoth without your 7 children you are surely no better than someone driving such a vehicle for status - you are just as wasteful and dangerous on the road.

Hmm, are there many minivans that seat 9? (guessing that someone with 7 kids is actually still married...) And you seem to think that its realistic to own another vehicle just for times when kids aren't traveling as well. Get real!

I'm not a huge fan of the Hummer line, but some of you guys seem to be going a little overboard. I remember looking up the curb weight on my big, solid-framed, 77 Ford LTD a long time ago. If I remember correctly, it was around 4200 lbs. I was shocked when I saw the 08 CTS was 3600 lbs. Then I found out the accord and camry are 3600 and 3500 also. Flip comments about 2 ton vehicles don't just apply to hummers anymore. The H3 comes in at about 4800, and who knows what this thing will be. It might be closer to an accord (weight-wise) than you'd care to admit.

Not having kids is the GREENEST thing we can all do. Just keep practising but don't actually score points.

Still I wish this line would die already, it is absolutely useless for family use. They call it an off-road vehicle but like someone said a posts up nobody will ever take this thing off road, if they want to make Hummer's just stick with the H1. Complete waste of material and $$$.

"Also, if you're driving around in a 2-ton behemoth without your 7 children you are surely no better than someone driving such a vehicle for status - you are just as wasteful and dangerous on the road."

I am no Hummer fan.

7+2 is 9 the last time i checked and I doubt that a hummer would actually be a viable car for him... Is one of the kids going to drive now and leave the parents at home?

But assuming that you only did need to carry 7 people...

I am to assume that he is supposed to carry his kid and family everywhere or be wasteful in your eyes? With 7 people in a minivan there is room for nothing else. Hope you pack light...

Whats the curb weight of a fully loaded down minivan? Might be pretty heavy and dangerous huh? As far as being dangerous is concerned, no one is forcing anyone to ride in these glorified go cart sized cars, it is a choice. Just like I choose to put my wife and kids in a 5 star crash rated, mid sized SUV. It’s all about choice.

What ever happened to this being a free country and being able to drive what ever you want if you can afford it? We as a country have really far (often too far) to clean up after ourselves. What is often lost in the shuffle is the productivity vs. the amount of fuel used. No one says a word to China and other developing countries about all of the pollution they pump out daily, both into the air and water and you can bet they are not being as productive...

Maybe if we spent more time and money drilling and refining more of our own oil for gas and heat to became less dependent on other sources, AND development of alternative fuels or technologies (of which there is no still none that can compete with current fuel from a cost/benefit ratio) we would not have problems with the price of gas and other fuels, no to mention be beholden to tyrants and thugs all over the world. We are funding terrorism all over the world with every gallon of oil we buy.

Think of all the jobs both in obtaining the oil and refinement of it that would be produced in this country, not to mention all of the jobs on the alternative fuel side of things.

This all goes back to the common hoax called "man made global warming". Years ago we were all going to die because of global cooling, now its global warming. We have only been keeping accurate track of temperatures for what, 100, maybe 150 years? The earth is how old? Anyone ever think that the changes we are noticing may have happened 20, 50 or 100 times in the past? What is most of the theory based on? Projection, that’s what. Scientists can't tell us what the weather will be next week or next month, but they are "all" telling us that the earth is warming? I could go on...

Remember one thing... 1 volcanic eruption puts out more "pollution" in the air then we ever have or will in the foreseeable future. Last time I checked there are quite a few active volcanoes on the earth and periodically they erupt. The earth compensates quite nicely and will continue to do so.

Drive whatever you want. The earth will be fine. Can't say the same thing for this country as our government continues to try and regulate us out of house and car...all to protect us from something that no-one can prove is actually a problem that we have anything to do with.

7 kids?!!! Jesus! There's your problem right there buddy. I believe you and your litter are going to have trouble looking for a vehicle that can hold all of you and stay green at the same time. The best thing you can do now to help the environment is to start using Trojans.

Lets see, we are in 2007 and three designers came to the amazing conclusion," While we took inspiration from the HUMMER heritage and DNA, we each wanted to evolve it in a new way,” said Jablonski. “We agreed it should be contemporary, compact and definitely open air. It came out great.”

Do they realize that their "discovery" seems oddly famaliar? Like a Jeep Wrangler, maybe. You know removable panels, compact, and definitely open air. The earlier versions using a 4 cylinder for efficiency.

" After three months of sketching and sculpting theme work for the new HUMMER concept, each designer had the opportunity to present scale clay models to Bob Lutz, GM vice chairman and Ed Welburn, who chose which design would ultimately become the HX concept." ... All they needed to do was go to the nearest Jeep dealer, and reverse engineer a Wrangler, or better yet have the Chinese do it......

Steve:

You are being so completely ignorant it's not even funny. You don't think we are damaging our atmosphere?

The US produces %85 of emissions
The US uses about %75 of resources

As a country, if we thought about what was right instead of "ME ME ME! I WANT I WANT! ME ME ME! RIGHT NOW!" we wouldn't have to clean up so much after ourselves.

Your mentality is why other countries hate us. We're free, we can do what we want? Freedom means little if there is no one around to enjoy it.

My family had 2 vehicals, an SUV for the family and winter times, and a Civic for other uses.

Another thing is, if you have 7 kids, you are being irresponsible and contributing to not only pollution and global warming, you're contributing to overpopulation which is every bit as real as global warming.

I drive a 91 Honda CRX, not because I can't afford better ( I most certainly can) but because is't an ultra low emissions car, great gas milage and wonderful reliability. It's 17 years old and gets better milage then most new cars, but that's another topic.

As for the Hummer. They have their uses. The H2 has similar capabilities as the H1, with lesser grown clearance and the H3 is just another SUV. They took both the H1 and H2 on the Baja 1000, and the H2 did just fine.

Hummer not for me, but I don't see a problem with it. I think we should all be driving horse-drawn carts anyways. (/sarcasm)

ITS A WARTHOG!!!

Is this the Hummer bash post? Hummers are no different then other large autos that are out there, how offten do you see someone driving a large pickup truck and not carrying anything in the back? I've had a jeep and it was a peace of sh**, people drive what they like. Live your life and dont worry about what the next guy is doing or driveing, it will make you a better person..

"Won't this brand just die already? How many guys in the US do we have that need to purchase cars for penis extensions? "

Wont the ignorant "Typical Post-September 11 USA Obsesed Types" and their cassete players they call mouths die already?! This and the H2 have nothing to do with the original Hummer. Go do some research instead of letting your "America Obsession" do the thinking for you.

"The US produces %85 of emissions
The US uses about %75 of resources"

?!? Last time i checked China as already surpassed the US in emissions and Australia (for example) produces more emission per capita. 75% of resources?! LOL!! No comments...And dont forget the US is the worlds largest producer and exporter, if the World doesnt like maybe they should stop buying AMD´s and Intel´s and plenty of other stuff and save the World from the evil Americans that are guilty of everything.

Sometimes the World just needs to bash America, happened in the 20´s and 30´s, happened in the 60´s and early 70´s, happened in the mid 80´s and now its happening again. But its funny how the World just cant stop looking at the USA...

"Hummer not for me, but I don't see a problem with it. I think we should all be driving horse-drawn carts anyways. (/sarcasm)"

LOL

Interesting design, but... as others have mentioned, I think its been done before, and the front end looks oddly familar to existing rally/offroad vehicles.
Such as those that compete against the subaru imprezas, and mitsubishi lancers, and other such offroad/rally competitions.

Meh... different strokes for different folks.

The military Hummer made sense for it's use.
You have to wonder what the people at GM were smoking when they thought up the Hummer line. Goodbye GM.

It just keeps on getting more ugly.

JROC:

That argument has to be the biggest conglomeration of selfish, self-deluding, half-baked ignorant garbage I've had the misfortune to read so far this week. It has more holes in it than George Dubyas foreign policy.

"What ever happened to this being a free country and being able to drive what ever you want if you can afford it?"

Being a "free" country (and what a joke that is) does not give you blanket permission to screw up the rest of the world with your gas-guzzling behemoths. If you could come up with some way of keeping your pollution within your own national borders, then go buy all the hummers you like. You'd all be dead within a decade from carbon monoxide poisoning anyway. What a shame.

"We as a country have really far (often too far) to clean up after ourselves."

ROFLMFAO. Oh puhleeeeze. Leaving aside the obvious implication that you shouldn't have to always clean up after yourself, when was the last time the US cleaned up anything at all? From what I've seen, everywhere you go you just rape a country, make a mess, then leave it to someone else to clean up.

"No one says a word to China and other developing countries about all of the pollution they pump out daily"

Absolute garbage. There are plenty of people complaining about it. You just did so yourself. It's the gutless governments of the world, yours and mine included, that refuse to do anything unless it's in their own political interest to do so. And that will never happen as long as people like you continue to bury your collective heads in the sand saying "I refuse to do anything as long as China keeps polluting and buying our stuff, so nyah :P"

"Maybe if we spent more time and money drilling and refining more of our own oil for gas and heat to became less dependent on other sources"

That statement is wrong on so many levels I don't know where to begin.
1. What oil exactly should you be drilling? All the significant oil in the US has been found and tapped already. Unless you're suggesting that the US should once again find some poor third world country that happens to be rich in resources and suck it dry, thus dooming it's inhabitants to generations of poverty and starvation just so you can continue to drive your new hummer. That's freedom for you.

2. Even if you do happen to locate a rich supply of oil right under your own noses, by all means lets suck it up out of the ground so you can sell gas cheaply again and spew it into the air and raise the temperature another 3 or 4 degrees. The global climate is already screwed anyway, whats another couple of degrees. Viva la freedom.

3. What possible difference could it make to be dependant on "other" sources if the ones you are already TOTALLY dependant on is running out? I would have thought an allegedly free country would be going out of their way to find other sources.

"development of alternative fuels or technologies (of which there is no still none that can compete with current fuel from a cost/benefit ratio)"

Well duh fred. The whole reason oil has been so succesful as an energy source is because it WAS cheap and easy to extract. Those days are gone. You better get used to it. Environmentally responsible energy sources will be more expensive than oil, and I for one could care less if it means my grandkids will be here to enjoy the cleaner air.

"...no to mention be beholden to tyrants and thugs all over the world."

Don't you mean beholden to OTHER thugs? By that I means thugs other than yourselves. Do you want to be not only the biggest kid on the block, but the ONLY kid on the block?

"We are funding terrorism all over the world with every gallon of oil we buy."

No, you are funding terrorism with all the money your government pours directly into terrorist organisations whose objectives happen to coincide with your own. The most famous example of which is currently international public enemy number 1, Osama bin Runnin. The big O's band of merry men was directly funded by the CIA 20-odd years ago when they were fighting "the red menace" in afghanistan. He was just as big a fruitcake then as he is now, but it was OK then because his cause and yours was the same. Now you're reaping the rewards of your interference. GO freedom GO.

"Think of all the jobs both in obtaining the oil and refinement of it that would be produced in this country"

I'll be thinking of all those fully employed americans, hand on heart, all misty-eyed right up until I choke to death on air pollution... "At least they had jobs when the worlds polar ice caps melted killing billions of coastal dwelling people around the world..." gurgle, gurgle...gasp.

"This all goes back to the common hoax called "man made global warming"."

This one's a beaut and shows your ignorance in full flight.

"Years ago we were all going to die because of global cooling, now its global warming."

Lets see what Wikipedia has to say about the whole global cooling imminent "disaster"... you can read the whole thing here...http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_cooling, but I draw your attention to two the most important sentences..
1. "This hypothesis never had significant scientific support"
2. "...gained temporary popular attention due to press reports"
So basically what happened was an extremely small percentage of scientists postulated that our climate might be about to enter a period of cooling and the press jumped on it and blew it up out of all proportion.

By an amazing coincidence exactly the same scenario is being played out today in reverse, only this time it's the lunatic fringe I like to call the "climate change denialists" who are the very small percentage )and incidentally are without exception in the employ of massive CO2 producing industries), when the vast majority of the worlds climate scientists are agreed that the human race has indeed caused global warming. The only remaining point of debate is how much it will change.

"We have only been keeping accurate track of temperatures for what, 100, maybe 150 years?"

We have only been keeping DIRECT records of temperatures for 150 years. As anyone who isn't a total ignoramus will know, humans have this thing called a brain. With it we can do all kinds of amazing things like work out all kinds of stuff using somefink called ev-a-dense. Stuff like a yearly climate/air/temerature records using plants and/or ice and/or ocean sediment etc etc etc going back hundreds of thousands, even millions of years.

"Anyone ever think that the changes we are noticing may have happened 20, 50 or 100 times in the past?"

OMG !!! That's brilliant !!! I can't believe that no-one ever thought of that before!!! .... You should be a world famous scientist dude with your amazing insight. Or could it be that maybe, just maybe, some already world famous scientists DID think of that and realise that yes, it has happened before, but that the changes always took place over thousands of years, not decades and that the changes were not nearly as large, and that the planet hadn't been systematically stripped of all its self balancing mechanisms to deal with it.

"What is most of the theory based on? Projection, that’s what."

Do you have a retirement fund of some sort? If so, you better withdraw it all right now because that too is based on that dreaded bogeyman of all things scientific...(cue spooky music)..PROJECTION !!! (cue loud pipe-organ dramatic sting).

Making out that projection is some sort of airy-fairy out-there pie-in-the-sky random guess is typical of people who have no other way of justifying their own lets-just-bury-our-heads-in-the-sand-and-pretend-the-problem-doesn't-exist positions.

"I could go on..."

...and on and on and on...

"1 volcanic eruption puts out more "pollution" in the air then we ever have or will in the foreseeable future."

This one took my breath away for the depth of its ignorance. Whoever told you this should be locked up for an act of criminal misinformation worthy of Josef Goebbels. Like most good propaganda, there is a small element of truth about it, but also like most good propaganda there are large elements of misdirection and outright untruths.

THE TRUE BIT:
Volcanic eruptions do indeed cause global climate change, however...

THE MISDIRECTION BIT:
...the climate change is not warming. Contrary to your obvious implication that volcanoes cause more global warming than man-made pollution, the pollution caused by volcanoes causes the global temperature to DROP, not rise, since it blocks out the sunlight.

THE UNTRUE BIT:

The pollution from the eruption of of Mt Pinatubo in 1991, which was the largest eruption since Krakatoa in 1883, "only" caused a 0.4 degree DROP in global temperature for 3 years. So your assertion that "1 volcanic eruption puts out more "pollution" in the air then we ever have or will in the foreseeable future" is a nonsense and completely irrelevant since it is not "pollution", volcanic or oil-based that is causing global warming. It is carbon dioxide emissions. Ironically, there is a growing consensus amongst climatologists that air pollution is in fact helping to mitigate global warming somewhat because it blocks sunlight from reaching the ground where it gets trapped by the CO2. We're so screwed environmentally that if we clean up air pollution, we may in fact accelerate global warming by having cleaner air. How's that for a dilemma. We either choke to death or fry. Now that's what I call freedom of choice.

"The earth compensates quite nicely and will continue to do so."

This point is a doozy as well. I have no doubt that you are completely correct. The earth WILL cope and life WILL go on. After all, it did after the last catastrophic climate change event took place. I mean, we're here after all, and the dinosaurs ain't.

In a million years time, two highly evolved cockroaches will be having this same argument.

"all to protect us from something that no-one can prove is actually a problem that we have anything to do with."

Wrong again. Unless you would like to contradict the latest U.N Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change report. But then after all, you're a world famous climatologist and know better than the rest of the entire scientific community that the research they've spent years and untold millions of conducting is just plain wrong.

No, JROC you seem to be a complete ignoramus who would rather believe the 0.01% of whackos who say what you want to hear so that you won't have to take any personal responsibility for your own contribution the the mess this planet is in.

Go ahead, buy a hummer. Buy 10 for all I care. I can't wait for the day your 7 kids die of thirst because you wanted to be free to have the right to "Drive whatever you want".

Goodness, I don't think HUMMERs are any worse than your typical monster F350 or full-size SUVs. Why can't everyone just calm down, drive what they drive, and be on with it? Just because Fred drives a jacked-up F350 doesn't mean he has a tiny pecker, and just because Mark who drives a MINI Cooper S doesn't mean he has quite a hunk of meat down there. Penis size doesn't have anything to do with your automobile. Ugh, I hate comments like that.

I doubt this global warming crap isn't as bad as they are putting it. There have been end-of-the-world arguments since man has dawned. Sure, we're polluting the world, but give it time when a valid replacement comes along. I'm sure buying an energy-efficient car now is going to affect anything in the long run.

It's always about cars, cars, cars. Buildings produce greenhouse gases. As does pretty much everything else... why stop with cars, and be more efficient in every aspect of your life? Too annoying and difficult? Or is it because it's easier to bash someone's car because you see them everyday in it?

oops.. apologies JROC, that rant was meant for steve. I misread the name of the poster. :/

Global Warming is the most intolerant of all religions.
Fakt!

braingeyser...do you pseudo-intelectual know-it-all Keyboard Activists and your overused and already tired arguments have a job???

PS - You forgot the "Rumsfeld shaking hands with Saddam in the 80´s" argument !!! How can a Keyboard Activist forget the Rumsfeld and Saddam argument?!?! Intolerable...get your act together...

George. Why is it that people like yourself who can't think of any intelligent response to someones argument invariably fall back on insult? "Get a job ya bloody hippy". Apparently the unemployed aren't allowed to have a valid opinion. Not that it is relevant, but I do in fact have two jobs, one of which I've had for more than 20 years. Am I allowed to have an opinion now George?

And perhaps you best look up the proper usage of the word pseudo-intellectual before you go bandying it about like a...hmmm, lets see...oh yeah...pseudo-intellectual.

And how exactly does an argument become overused and tired? The only possible explanation I can think of is if the premise that your argument is based on is no longer relevant. Last time I checked, the world has not solved the global warming situation. All the same arguments still apply. We still need to stop spewing CO2 into the air if we want to avoid the collapse of our so called "civilisation". Are you one of those people who continually need new arguments for the same problem just to maintain your lip-service concern for a catastrophic problem just because you have the attention span of a goldfish?

And just FYI, I could care less who shook hands with who more than 20 years ago. It's the direct supply of military hardware and cash I was referring to, not the niceties of diplomatic convention.

I'll consign the whole "Keyboard Activist" comment to the porcelain receptacle where it belongs, since your preconceptions of who and what I am are based solely on 1 post and are totally inadequate for determining my status as an activist, keyboard or otherwise.

In short George, like your namesake, you are a wanker.

Have nice day.