Lincoln has released the first official pictures of the upcoming 2009 MKS, which will be officially unveiled at the LA Auto Show this week.
We were first exposed to the MKS as a concept back in 2006. The all-new sedan is built on the same platform as the new Taurus, which started as the Volvo S80 and XC90. The MKS is the first Lincoln vehicle to feature Lincoln's new design DNA.
When the car is first launched it will be powered by a 272 horsepower 3.7L V6. A new turbocharged, direct-injected V6 will be released less than a year later.
The flagship Lincoln starts at $38,000 for the front-wheel-drive model and the all-wheel-drive MKS will start at about $2,000 more.
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PRESS RELEASE:
2009 Lincoln MKS: ALL-NEW FULL-SIZE FLAGSHIP SEDAN
· The new Lincoln MKS full-size luxury sedan aims to attract new buyers with its timeless design, fuel-efficient powertrain and an unparalleled suite of features and technologies.
· Class-leading convenience features include SYNC™ voice-activated, hands-free in-car communications; EasyFuel™ capless fuel filling; THX-certified audio; SIRIUS Travel Link™; voice-activated navigation; and a next-generation keyless entry keypad.
· Lincoln-exclusive fuel-efficient 3.7-liter V-6 and all-wheel drive provide smooth driving.
· Lincoln MKS will be the first vehicle to offer Ford's new gasoline turbo direct injection engine technology – which provides the power and torque of a V-8 engine with the fuel efficiency of a V-6 – less than a year after launch.
· An outstanding value starting below $38,000, Lincoln MKS orders are now being accepted; customers can visit www.lincoln.com to build and price their vehicle.
Los ANGELES, Nov. 14, 2007 – The all-new 2009 Lincoln MKS full-size luxury sedan debuts today, providing customers understated style, first-of-a-kind convenience features, advanced safety and one of the best values in the luxury market.
Unveiled at the Greater Los Angeles International Auto Show, the new Lincoln flagship is designed to help fuel Lincoln's growth by attracting new customers.
"Lincoln has reestablished itself as a quality and design leader with award-winning products like the Lincoln MKZ, MKX and Navigator," says Mark Fields, Ford Motor Company's president of The Americas. "With the Lincoln MKS, we are raising the bar even higher with unparalleled amenities and performance, and a price that should be irresistible to luxury customers."
The New Lincoln Flagship: A Strong Contender in the Luxury Sedan Segment
The Lincoln MKS is a full-size luxury sedan aimed at bringing new and younger buyers into the Lincoln fold. Not traditional luxury buyers who shop based on name and price tag alone, Lincoln MKS customers are under 50 and value beautiful modern design, more fuel efficiency and good value.
Pricing for Lincoln MKS starts at less than $38,000, a strategic move aimed at attracting new customers to the brand. Many will be first-time luxury buyers, with a significant number expected to migrate from imports. In fact, up to 60 percent of those buying the luxury sedan are expected to be new to Lincoln.
"We're playing to win with the Lincoln MKS, especially in California, where more luxury vehicles are sold than anywhere else. We will do so by offering confident, understated, respectful luxury – not something that will go out of fashion in a year or two," said Mike Richards, Lincoln General Marketing Manager. "We're also making an extra effort to reach out to African American and Hispanic buyers who want and deserve luxury in their lives, in part, through new marketing relationships with artists Common and Juanes."
Juanes, a 12-time Latin Grammy award winning artist, will help introduce SYNC, which is standard on Lincolns and widely available on Ford and Mercury products, to the Hispanic market. Juanes was recognized by Time magazine as one of the "100 Most Influential People in the World" for his belief in the possibility of social change through music.
Common, an accomplished musician, children's author and actor, will represent Lincoln beginning in 2008. The partnership will feature multiple levels of advertising, marketing and promotional activities between Lincoln and Common's wide-ranging businesses and his community service program. Common is currently appearing in the Russell Crowe and Denzel Washington in the Ridley Scott-produced film American Gangster.
Consumers can visit www.lincoln.com to build and price their ideal Lincoln MKS and place their order at their local Lincoln dealer immediately.
To be built at Ford Motor Company's Chicago Assembly Plant, the Lincoln MKS will begin arriving in Lincoln showrooms next summer.
Loaded with Convenience and Technology: Lincoln MKS offers unprecedented amenities
The Lincoln MKS offers a suite of technologies and features not found on other luxury sedans. They include:
· SYNC, a hands-free, voice-activated hands-free in-car communication and entertainment system developed by Ford and Microsoft. The system fully integrates most Bluetooth-enabled mobile phones and digital media players, providing customers hands-free cell phone and music selection capabilities.
· THX®-certified audio system with 5.1 Surround Sound, SIRIUS Travel Link™ and Voice-Activated Navigation, which provides superior sound quality – plus real time traffic updates, movie listings, Doppler radar weather forecasts and even directions to the closest local gas stations with the best prices.
· Lincoln's Next-Generation Keypad, which uses heat-sensing technology to bring alive the keypad of LED backlit numerals embedded in the driver side B-pillar. The driver enters a five-digit code to unlock the vehicle.
· EasyFuel™ Capless Fuel-Filler System, a customer convenience that helps reduce evaporative emissions that create smog and global warming. When fueling is completed, and the nozzle is removed, the system automatically seals shut.
· Adaptive Cruise Control (ACC), which allows the driver to set the car's speed and maintain that speed without using the accelerator pedal. The radar-based system also can monitor the vehicle in front (up to 600 feet) and adjust the speed of the Lincoln MKS to keep it a safe distance behind the lead vehicle. Four settings accommodate different driving styles.
· Intelligent Access with Push Button Start, which is a first for Lincoln and allows the driver to enter the Lincoln MKS and start the engine without using a key. Drivers simply carry the special fob as they approach the vehicle, touch the keyless entry pad on the B-Pillar, open the door and with the brake pedal engaged, start the engine by pushing a button.
· Adaptive Headlamps with Automatic High Beams and Standard High-Intensity Discharge (HID) lamps, which enhance nighttime visibility by illuminating more of the road and reducing glare from oncoming traffic. Sensors monitor vehicle speed and steering wheel input engaging electric motors that pivot the left headlamp up to five degrees and the right headlamp up to 15 degrees to increase the driver's field of vision. Plus, automatic high beams switch to high intensity when no other vehicles are detected.
· Rain-Sensing Wipers, which are moisture-activated and programmable.
· Forward Sensing System, which determines how close front objects are while parking.
· Rearview Camera System, which is mounted beneath the Lincoln Star on the decklid and activated when the vehicle is shifted into reverse, giving the driver a view of what's behind the vehicle. The system works in conjunction with the vehicle's reverse sensing system and uses the navigation screen as a display.
Understated Design: Lincoln MKS debuts new design DNA
The Lincoln MKS is the first vehicle to embrace Lincoln's new design DNA.
"Every element of this luxury sedan reflects the culture of Lincoln – from its well-proportioned athleticism to the design cues we have painstakingly developed, modernizing the best elements over time," says Peter Horbury, executive director of Design for The Americas.
Its most striking exterior design feature is its double-wing grille, which sweeps up into the jewel-like headlamps, wrapping around the front fascia and forming a sharp crease that defines the high beltline. A subtle kick-up over the rear wheel calls back cue found on many classic Lincolns. Strong shoulders, dramatic C-pillars, clean body sides, a tall rear deck and large wheels and tires lend the Lincoln MKS a confident stance.
Modern luxury carries through inside, as well. Space is abundant, with a class-leading interior package. In fact, the MKS has the largest rear cabin in its class in every important dimension, including head, leg and shoulder room. And Lincoln tends to passengers' comfort with standard heated rear seats, an overhead skylight and a sun shade for the backlight.
Its interior is sleek. For instance, the Lincoln MKS's symmetrical instrument panel has fewer break lines than other luxury vehicles. The flow-through center stack is clean and uncluttered, with an information screen integrated at the top. The large center console has a split, two-piece, padded upper section. Each section slides forward individually to form an armrest.
"Luxury buyers still expect rare beauty, but today, they also seek authenticity," Horbury said.
"This is space Lincoln can rightfully reclaim, given the design of our vehicles and the way we've chosen to adorn the MKS with the finest real leathers, rare woods, real aluminum and chrome accents – in a more environmentally responsible way."
For example, the leather used for the seats is perfected with vegetable dyes and a chromium-free tanning process to create the softest leather ever used in a Lincoln.
It is supplied by Bridge of Weir Leather, the same company that provided hides for the Ford Model T and the iconic Continental Mark II, as well as the Concorde, the Queen Elizabeth 2 and the Burj Al Arab, the world's first 7-star hotel.
Ebony wood used for some models is reclaimed from furniture makers and others sources, offering a rare wood with minimal environmental impact. Also offered is Olive Ash, a wood with a distinctive grain pattern created when the roots of two trees grow together.
Smooth Power: Fuel-efficient V-6 today; V-8 power with V-6 efficiency tomorrow
The Lincoln MKS is powered by a Lincoln exclusive new 3.7-liter V-6 engine. The powertrain has been derived from the proven 3.5-liter V-6 found in the Lincoln MKX, which was voted one of Ward's 10-Best Engines for 2007.
Both engines share the same strong, die-cast aluminum block and lightweight four-valve heads for smooth operation at high RPMs. The 3.7-liter's larger cylinders contribute to the increase in horsepower and torque. This engine delivers 270 horsepower and 265 lb.-ft. of torque and is mated to a 6-speed automatic transmission with SelectShift that delivers smoother shifts, better fuel economy, acceleration and the option to manually select gears.
"This engine is tuned to maximize the increased torque to improve performance where it's needed most – standing acceleration and passing," says Michael Celentino, chief engineer.
Less than a year after launch, the Lincoln MKS will be the first vehicle to offer Ford's new gasoline turbo direct injection engine technology.
The premium engine – which offers the power and torque of a V-8 with the fuel efficiency of a V-6 – will make the Lincoln MKS the most powerful and fuel-efficient all-wheel drive luxury sedan in the market.
Lincoln MKS also is available with an all-wheel-drive (AWD) system that provides a confident driving experience in all weather. It uses a sophisticated system of clutches to quickly distribute torque between front and rear wheels – up to 100 percent in either direction – to avoid wheel slip. The AWD system works with the standard Advance Trac® stability control system to provide additional stability, transferring torque from side-to-side.
An all-new independent rear suspension design features vertically mounted shock absorbers mounted at the outboard end of the suspension arms near the wheels, maximizing suspension travel and allowing for more precise suspension tuning.
The MacPherson strut and rear-facing L-shaped lower control arm front suspension also was designed to maximize suspension travel and tuned to work in harmony with the rear suspension. As an added benefit, the new suspension design can accommodate larger, 20-inch wheels and tires without compromising ride comfort.
The Lincoln MKS comes standard with 18-inch bright, machined, cast aluminum painted 10-spoke wheels. Nineteen-inch 10-spoke painted, polished or machined aluminum or a class-exclusive 20-inch, 11-spoke, highly polished, cast aluminum wheel are available options.
Building on a Heritage of Safety Leadership
The Lincoln MKS is equipped with a comprehensive package of the latest in active and passive safety features to provide the highest level of protection for all occupants.
Standard safety features include: dual-stage driver and front passenger air bags, safety belt pretensioners, load-limiting retractors, driver seat positioning sensor, side air bags and Safety Canopy™ side curtain air bags with roll-fold technology and four-wheel ABS brakes.
Additional standard safety features include an anti-theft perimeter alarm, Battery Saver, Belt-Minder®, Child Safety Locks, glow-in-the-dark trunk release, illuminated entry, LATCH (Lower Anchors & Tethers for Children) and a tire pressure monitoring system.
Comments (29)
finally i linclin i like
Posted by o | November 14, 2007 6:33 AM
Posted on November 14, 2007 06:33
So...it's supposed to compete with:
Infinity G35 / M35
BMW 3-series
Acura TL / RL
Lexus IS350 / ES350
Cadillac's new CTS
Mercedes C-class
...am I'm missing any other $35-45k cars?
And as you can see by the list, the only other FWD/AWD cars are Acuras, which Lincoln can't touch on style, interior, or the jewel like Honda engines.
Posted by Noya | November 14, 2007 7:40 AM
Posted on November 14, 2007 07:40
front headlamps looks like tsx's to me.
wow see the different efficiency between japanese engineering and american engineering?
Infinity G37 3.7L = 330hp
this one, 272hp...
Posted by Ken | November 14, 2007 8:10 AM
Posted on November 14, 2007 08:10
The turbo AWD version could be interesting.
Posted by Darmok | November 14, 2007 8:28 AM
Posted on November 14, 2007 08:28
The design isn't to bad but I sure miss the days of the Lincoln LS. That was one of their sweetest designs ever.
Posted by CS | November 14, 2007 8:40 AM
Posted on November 14, 2007 08:40
Is this the car that is going to replace all the limo for hire, black lincoln's town cars driving around? It's certainly better looking but is it big enough?
Posted by Justin | November 14, 2007 8:42 AM
Posted on November 14, 2007 08:42
Looks very good. It looks european, a bit like the Ford Mondeo. I wonder if they share a platform?
Posted by andri | November 14, 2007 8:42 AM
Posted on November 14, 2007 08:42
Ken - No offense but you're obviously not a car person. If you were you would have jumped to that torque number 265 lb-ft of torque. Now you mentioned the G37 which has VVT (the Lincoln engine does not) yet it only gets 270 ft-lbs of torque. The HP numbers come solely based on the fact that the engine's RPM's are higher 7500 vs 6500 on the Lincoln engine. However torque is the force that you feel when you put your foot on the gas. HP is a number advertisers sell because it sounds cool, but is ultimately useless depending on the torque curve.
Now 265 vs 270 is not all that informative because while BMWs have small torque numbers, they're available when you put the foot on the pedal so they're consistant. What you would like to know is what RPM does the engine need to get to in order to get 265 lb-ft of torque. Now the 3.5l version of the engine gets 265 lb-ft of torque at 4500 RPM. Quite honestly not that great. Now the G37 gets to its 270 at 5200 RPMs which is just abysmal. To be fair though, what you would like to see is the torque curve. If the G37 gets 95% of its torque up to 5200 RPMs, well then that's not all that bad. The same logic applies to the Lincoln. My guess is the G37's torque curve is pretty good, because I've heard good things about the G37. However, to criticize the Lincoln solely based on the fact that the G37 has a more rev happy engine is a little short sighted.
Posted by compy386 | November 14, 2007 8:44 AM
Posted on November 14, 2007 08:44
so, lincoln sits a-top of Volvo, and nearby Jaguar, where Volvo stands for reliable boredom, Lincoln for classic boredom and Jaguar for lost-my-way boredom. All three are wannabee-something-but-dont-know-what for a geriatric targetgroup.
You would almost buy a Ford....
Posted by rene | November 14, 2007 8:49 AM
Posted on November 14, 2007 08:49
How difficult is it to take a Jaguar and gaudy it up
Posted by Staedler and Waldorff | November 14, 2007 8:54 AM
Posted on November 14, 2007 08:54
Looks nice. The design namely the front grill looks like a cross between a pontiac and a mitsubishi. But overall it looks stylish!
Posted by Terence | November 14, 2007 8:57 AM
Posted on November 14, 2007 08:57
I like this car as well. It's definitely a move in the correct direction to attract new, "younger," buyers to the a brand that for the most part has only been kept alive by senior citizens still trying to hold on something from their past.
Any thoughts on what the specs might be for the turbo V6 that's going in this car?
Posted by D! | November 14, 2007 9:10 AM
Posted on November 14, 2007 09:10
While this is probably a better car than the Town Car, neither the Town Car or this MKS are deserving of the 'Flagship' label for a true luxury brand. If Ford wants Lincoln to continue to be a viewed as a luxury brand, they had better get out a real flagship model... something that can compete with a BMW 7 series or a Mercedes S-Class. At this rate, they're head to making Lincoln an Americanized version of Volvo.
Posted by Peter Stern | November 14, 2007 10:06 AM
Posted on November 14, 2007 10:06
rene: "....and Jaguar for lost-my-way boredom"
Are you kidding me???
have you even seen the new jags? GO have a look at the new XF and XJ. They look like Austin Martins!! Beautiful and very well powered cars! I would say, they are two best looking cars coming out any US owed auto maker.
I am saying this not as a Ford guy, but a guy who loves cars.
On the car at hand.. I think it looks too bad, although it has the same crap instrument cluster as the fusion. Ford still does not understand that little details on the inside and out make the car. They don't understand that we dont want all these hard plastics.
Have a look at Europes Ford Mondeo.
http://jalopnik.com/photogallery/mondeo/905212
Ford CAN build a great looking car for the US too, they just choose not too.
I have lots of friends over at Ford here in SoCal, and they also don't understand why they dont do it......
Thats the main reason I wont buy anything Ford..because they COULD give US something nice, but they WONT.
Posted by patrick | November 14, 2007 10:08 AM
Posted on November 14, 2007 10:08
Finally...A Lincoln that people may actually want to buy..
Posted by gilly | November 14, 2007 11:01 AM
Posted on November 14, 2007 11:01
wah, wah the hell?! Dammit, if this car is going to compete in the sports sedan segment, it needs RWD! Who is doing FWD in sports sedans? Lexus's IS is not. BMWs Three Series is not Mercedes is not.
R-W-D. Dammit, I like the way this car looks too, but without RWD its a loss. Why even spend the time developing it without RWD? Why? Why?!
And 272hp out of 3.7 L, Cadillac, Lexus, Infiniti, and BMW are all have 300 hp cars, and BMW is doing is with a light 3 liter (dual turbo sure, but its torque comes at 1800rpm and is 300ft-lbs, not shabby at all).
Another expensive loss for Lincoln, the last Lincoln anyone in my EXTENDED family owned was my Grandfathers 95 Town Car. And he got rid of that with urgency once he made friends at the Mercedes dealer in Indianapolis.
And Compy386: obviously YOU are not the car person: BMW's torque numbers are not small at all, its inline 6 makes 300ft lbs at 1800RPM. Your full of shit, you are. You know if torque was what sold cars, then why are American cars selling so bad? Because only soccer moms or 42 year old boys who don't like to hear an engine reach higher revs buy cars for torque. Once you hit higher RPMs, Horsepower matters far more than torque, and anyone who has ever driven a recent Chevrolet V8 (like myself) will tell you that while the torque numbers are high, its all in the top end.
I'd rather have the torque out of the top end so that I could keep my RPMs high through curves, or so that the tires do not peel and cause you to lose a turn or worse. The Infiniti G37 by the way is posting track numbers similar to those of a 3 series, which has 300ft lbs of torque at 1800rpm. Savvy that number yet?
Real car people are not 40 year old adolescents who want to peel their tires everywhere, we want to get off the line as fast as possible (without drag slicks, which are the only tires that really can take that much low end torque without peeling endlessly), and then actually drive the car. Compared to you and most American drivers who use that torque to just peel out in circles and show off for friends.
Final word: 80% of the G37's torque is available by 1500rpm. Not true for your pitiful 3.7 from Lincoln.
Posted by Allen | November 14, 2007 11:41 AM
Posted on November 14, 2007 11:41
I'm not going to get into the debate about the engine in this car, but from the photos here, it looks vastly better than the old Lincoln. If Ford's quality can improve (and signs have been showing just that), Lincoln may be looking at maintaining or even growing its market. Just for the record though, I'd still take the G37. Also, it seems to me that this will be competing mostly with Cadillac and I'm not sure if its there yet, but for people who want a more classic / refined / subdued look, this car should win them over.
Posted by gm0n3y | November 14, 2007 1:24 PM
Posted on November 14, 2007 13:24
Fanboy'ism never stops to amaze me.... who the hell is buying ANY of these cars actually driving them - ahem, ILLEGALLY on the roads, because that's what you'd have to do to get the 'performance' out of them. Technically - its amazing how these vehicles perform, but 99% of their buyers will never test them.
There will be a market for this. I would have liked to see RWD as well, but AWD is definately good to see on the option list. I've always been stunned that Acura vehicles are FWD, but they do just fine as a sport alternative.
Some people want style and a good value, not balls out performance. Have any of you driven a Ford Taraus (500) ? Not that bad at all. It's boring, yes, its not a sports sedan, granted, but its a damn fine car none the less.
Posted by MemphisNET | November 14, 2007 1:53 PM
Posted on November 14, 2007 13:53
I like the styling overall, but agree with Allen's post that the car should be RWD. Cadillac has switched to RWD to compete with the europeans with good success. With electronic traction controls, the argument for FWD is becoming a moot point, especially in the luxury class.
Posted by longdxcommuter | November 14, 2007 3:23 PM
Posted on November 14, 2007 15:23
Holy crap looks like a lexus es350 at the front!
Posted by Alex | November 14, 2007 3:37 PM
Posted on November 14, 2007 15:37
I think it looks good but I have some gripes:
1) The center console is stolen from the S80. Lincoln stealing Volvo design language: baaad
2) Since when do luxury cars use the fixed-tab vent adjustment method? The last time I saw that was on every new dodge. ever. and its just not an ideal system; minimal flow control (if you want to turn the airstream to the right, you're using the same dial that would close the vent) and the whole adjusting-the-vents-with-a-tab thing (vertically) just feels cheap
and finally
3) Lincoln needs to give up on that font on their gauges. It looks cheap and child-like; not retro. The gauges would have to be twice that size just to accommodate the size of those numbers to look decent.
But considering some of the products Lincoln put out previously, I commend them on this relative success :-)
Posted by Ted | November 14, 2007 6:58 PM
Posted on November 14, 2007 18:58
I was a Ford guy for thirty plus years and bought an Acura TL in 2005. It's the best quality car I've every owned. I wish I could have stayed with Ford, but our '02 Explorer and issues with the dealer drove me away. The style of this car is just great. I don't understand much of the flap about it sitting atop a Volvo frame. Who the heck cares! If Lexus or a top Japanese nameplate was on the car many of us would laud the design. I just love the front grille, the side view, the interior and the rear. The car actually has an identity, which many generic designs today just don't include. Now, all that is needed is a Toyota or Lexus quality engine and it will kick butt.
Posted by John Campi | November 14, 2007 10:01 PM
Posted on November 14, 2007 22:01
But Toyota makes good frames... Ford does not.
Also, no Lexus shares body parts with any Toyota vehicles sans the SUVs, and even that is changing. Lexus eventually plans to have separate platforms for all its vehicles minus anything thats ever Land Cruiser derived.
As to having identity: have you seen the side shots of this car? The front is all that looks stand-out, the rest is absolutely generic.
And I agree: vents that adjust with a cheapy knob ON the vent? I haven't seen that on a Mercedes or BMW since the early 90s, and I think thats a good thing!
Posted by Allen | November 15, 2007 1:08 AM
Posted on November 15, 2007 01:08
Allen - BMW's entry level 5 series has only 200 lb-ft. We're comparing entry level after all. Lincoln is releasing a 400+ HP performance version. And I did state that BMW gets really good track numbers because it has a flat torque curve that peaks really low. I think it's about 2k RPMs.
If you also read my post clearly is said that the G37 posts good reviews meaning that the engine probably is pretty good. You missed the entire point of the post that you can't just look at an HP number and conclude one vehicle is better than another. There are a lot of other factors.
Posted by compy386 | November 15, 2007 8:24 AM
Posted on November 15, 2007 08:24
The entry level 3 and 5 series both use a 230hp motor however: its an economy engine, not a sports engine.
Their sports powerplants? The 335i has 300ft-lbs. The 5 series 550i has 360ftlbs.
BMW has always offered economy powerplants in their vehicles, but the economy plant is not to be referenced versus a G35 or even this pitiful MKS. You match engines to engines: one performance motor versus another. I would never match a LS1 versus an LS7, or a Ford 4L V6 versus a GM 6L V8.
Hell, under your reasoning of "pick the lowest end motor just so I can sound smart," I'll find Ford's weakest economy engine and we'll see the BMW economy beat that!
And like I said earlier: a torque curve thats built lower end is better for track numbers. Only 40 year old adolescents like yourself like torque in the top end because you can burn out all the time.
And have you actually seen a dyno of BMW's vehicles? And I really wonder what you mean by flat torque curve: it builds early on but does not drop a lot throughout the rest of the engine: isn't that preferable anyway, so long as to much torque doesn't arrive in the top RPMs?
And Compy: I assemble engines in my spare time with buddies. I've built GM V8s, a BMW 4.4L V8 and a few 4 cylinder Japanese Motors. There is not a lot you can tell me about engines, ok? Especially a 40 year old adolescent like yourself who just like torque in the top end so he can peel out and such. Grow up, loser.
Posted by Allen | November 15, 2007 1:11 PM
Posted on November 15, 2007 13:11
Allen - You really don't like reading do you.
What I said: "We're comparing entry level after all. Lincoln is releasing a 400+ HP performance version."
What you said: "The entry level 3 and 5 series both use a 230hp motor however: its an economy engine, not a sports engine."
I'm talking about comparing entry level engines. The 3.7 is not Lincoln's performance engine. What's wrong with comparing BMW's weakest engine with Lincoln's? I think the 5 series is more expensive then an entry level MKS.
What I said: "And I did state that BMW gets really good track numbers because it has a flat torque curve that peaks really low. I think it's about 2k RPMs."
What you said: "And like I said earlier: a torque curve thats built lower end is better for track numbers. "
Again I'm not disagreeing with you. Low torque is better than high torque. Flat torque is good. BMW makes makes amazing engines. That's why I said high HP doesn't matter too much because it just means you get a lot of torque at a high RPM range. There are benefits to that but my guess is most people don't redline their vehicles.
I'm beginning to think you just want to start an argument since I don't think I've disagreed with most of your comments. If you want to judge a vehicle based solely on post HP that's your choice. I just don't think it's a good idea. Oh and for the record, I'm not 40. Not even close.
Posted by compy386 | November 15, 2007 3:02 PM
Posted on November 15, 2007 15:02
Great looking car, but I can't get over how butt ugly the brake lights are. Almost like seeing a hot looking woman from the front but when she turns around you see nothing but a chunky butt.
Posted by SteelCity1981 | November 19, 2007 4:51 AM
Posted on November 19, 2007 04:51
1. Yes this is based off of the Ford Mondeo. Not sure but it looks like the older 07. I have also heard rumors of the new 08 Mazda 6 being based off of the Mondeo which would rock.
2. Rumor has it that the turrbo version will be running 415hp/400 tourque but it hasn't been officially confirmed.
3. patrick, you wan't something nice? Look at the 95-2000 Ford Contour. Same exact thing as the 93-98 Mondeo. In fact I have a 99 Contour and it has English and German instructions(no Espanol strangely), was built in Kansas city and has only Bendix parts(Bendix being the Euro Ford equivalent to Motorcraft but much better).
Its harder to find parts for but I have never had mye enigne or tansmision mess up just the normal replacements such as gaskets, oil and brakes. But I can tell you that when you push on the gas you feel it and go. I just wish I had a SVT Contour. Those just rock.
Posted by Jimmy | December 10, 2007 5:55 PM
Posted on December 10, 2007 17:55
I love it when you people judge a vehicle by its looks. this car is based on the volvo s80 plateform, not mondeo. I bet nobody went to the autoshow to see this in person? The lines and fit and finish were the best I have ever seen in a domestic brand vehicle.You are judging the proformance on nothing. nobody has seen the numbers on this sedan yet. As for the ac vents they only go up and down with the little handle. there is a wheel below the vent that turns it side to side.has any one bothered to read about the quality of the interour. do your homework before making yourselves look stupid.I do not know of any problems with a newer lincoln engine to date, (For the guy who thinks the quality of his honda and acura engines are better.)transmissions are also a factor in proformance.speaking of engines, cadilacs are the ones with poor reliability issues.toyota had more recalls in 06 than cars they sold.I am just saying know the facks before you speak, are keep your mouth shut.
Posted by Jamie | February 19, 2008 9:54 PM
Posted on February 19, 2008 21:54