If the power isn't too peaky, 300 HP and 280 ft-lbs will be enough to do some damage. We'll see.

Mustang fighter? A Japanese or Korean powerplant usually yields twice the horsepower per cc than an american powerplant, so that 3.8ltr engine is just fine.

300/280 stock is sufficient, it all depends on curb weight. Keep it under 3400 and it will give the new stang fits all day long. Especially a stick Hyundai vs an auto stang I bet the Hyundai might get it. I wouldn't wanna race stock on stock a mustang GT vs a new Infiniti G37.

Even if they Hyundai doesn't place the V8 into the car, some tuner shop eventually will. The real question is what manual transmission Hyundai is using for this car. I can see them using a modified AWD transmission from the SUVs for the automatic cars, but it doesn't seem Hyundai has had anything close to a rwd manual transmission lately.

I agree with Carluver, if Hyundai keeps the weight down, this car can eat Mustangs all day long with the V6. Hell, a 350z can beat a Mustang GT (both cars stock) in a drag provided the driver just hits the manual shifts right, as the 350z tranny is definitely better than the Mustangs.

As to a tuner shop dropping in a V8,I don't know about that. It depends on how well it fits: show cars can easily fit engines that burst at the seams into an engine bay, and those can even run a few times. But on the street, having the block hit inside wall of the engine bay is not a good idea.

are we sure it is RWD?
Last coupe had Tucson based on it. I dont see a RWD coupe do the successor of Tucson, nor is there enough volume for a 2liter RWD Genesis variant.

Unless this thing is 4x4...

Rene:

Yes it's RWD, for sure.

What do you mean theres not enough volume for a 2ltr RWD variant?

that will be on premium. plus i hope to keep the weight down they use the aluminum block instead of the iron one from the eclipse. if not then thats going to give it a more front heavy end than the mustang. for their first rwd 2 door its going to be decent but its not going to be as competitive as people want it to be. the 350z is smaller than the stang so that helps it be competitive, but its a different type of car. the g35 coupe is closer to being competitive but it was underpowered for its weight.

brad:

Mustang fighter? A Japanese or Korean powerplant usually yields twice the horsepower per cc than an american powerplant, so that 3.8ltr engine is just fine.

What are you talking about?

The mustang has a SOHC v-8 with 4.6 liters. This is pretty close to 3.8 liters.

The mustang v-8 has much more torque, and an undoubtedly better power band; as evidenced by the fact that Ford, with a slightly longer duration camshaft, has easily put about 320 horsepower out of the engine. I have no doubt that the Hyundai DOHC v-6 is just about as heavy as the Mustang's v-8.

320hp/4.6 l =70hp/l; 300/3.8l=80hp/l

Twice the horsepower per cc for a Korean car... right...
Your point is moot...

Nate: The 350z isn't that light, I believe it tips the scales at 3200 lbs or so. If Hyundai can keep the V6 version to around the same weight, or even less, it will be VERY competitive with the Mustang and 350z.

If there's an american/european/japanese car, I will not buy Korean car, because the comfort quality it's not good at all...

If there's an american/european/japanese car, I will not buy Korean car, because the comfort quality it's not good at all...

If there's an american/european/japanese car, I will not buy Korean car, because the comfort quality it's not good at all...

Ralfoman:
"What are you talking about?

The mustang has a SOHC v-8 with 4.6 liters. This is pretty close to 3.8 liters."

One example (of many) - 2ltr WRX = 320BHP. Mustang is 2.5 times the engine capacity with same HP. AND the WRX is going to kill it in every environment. Especially corners. Face it, American engines seem to have lots of capacity, but where's the power?

@Gary:

What i means/trying to get at, what flatform serves what segment:

Platform 1: Sonata, Azera, Santa Fe, 2X4Front and 4x4, 4-inline and V6. 2m/yr?

Platform 2: Elantra, Coupe/Tuscani, Tucson 2x4Front, 4x4, 4-inline and V6, 4m/yr?

Platform 3: Genesis, SuperCoupe, Large SUV/R-class type?, 2x4Rear, 4X4?, V6 <1m yr.
A 2L Genesis variant will attract very low quantities. For what market? An expensive RWD large Hyundai E-class barge?

If they can make a RWD car with an independent rear suspension for the same price a a Mustang, I think they have a winner. Power-wise the base car will beat the V6 Mustang. This will never be the stellar drag-strip car the Mustang is, but they do not need to do that to sell a bunch of these.

Also, I love the WRX, but the Mustang eats its lunch on the drag strip. Especially with a few upgrades. By the way, Brad, you are talking about the WRX STI. The WRX has 2.5 liters and makes 230 hp if memory serves. Since the STI costs $5k more then the GT it is not really a fair comparison. Are you really going to compare hp/liter between an intercooled turbo and a naturally aspirated engine?

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"What are you talking about?

The mustang has a SOHC v-8 with 4.6 liters. This is pretty close to 3.8 liters."

One example (of many) - 2ltr WRX = 320BHP. Mustang is 2.5 times the engine capacity with same HP. AND the WRX is going to kill it in every environment. Especially corners. Face it, American engines seem to have lots of capacity, but where's the power?
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So... this Hyundai is going to have a Subaru engine? WTF are you talking about?

3.8 liters is 82% of the capacity of 4.6 liters. Making the same power is nice, but it's still not double.

Not that any of this matters. I want to see power/weight ratio, and quarter mile times.

I just don't get it. What is with the hangup about HP/Liter?
Power is power. If you want gas mileage, you're on the wrong page.

If both cars have the same weight, and both have 300HP, the one with more torque will out-accelerate the other... unless the gearing or tires totally suck. Barring that, it's simple physics. And yes, we all live in the same universe, so the same physics applies to foreign and domestic.

I for one can't wait to see this one come out. I want a test drive. Hyundai is kicking butt lately.

I want one. I like the styling and would take either the turbo 4 or the V6. Keep the weight down and you have an excellent SCCA platform here.

My point is: Brad is a moron who cannot divide to save his life.

It's one thing to say that Japanese cars are usually better than American cars (which is true). Its another to say that Korean cars are better.

Ever been in a junkyard? The only relatively new, clean title cars that can be found at the junkyard are Korean cars.

The Hyundai is a ghetto clone of an Infinity g-35.

If you want to dive a ghetto clone, that's your business, but please don't involve your nonsensical love of ANYTHING Asian; and criticize a very good engine. (Mustang v-8)

Ralfoman:

Have you ever been to a junkyard? When I go I may see a some wrecked Korean/Japanese cars but I see tons stripped down American cars. Seems like the only friends of mine that visit the Junkyards are the ones who are picking up parts for their Mustangs, F150's, Cavaliers, etc...

Check out Ace Auto Salvage and Capital Salvage in Austin Texas, you'll see a mecca of American Machinery broken down and stripped.

Wow, I just keeping reading this place is such a train wreck. Let me shed my personaly light on the hp/L vs. real world performance. I've owned two cars, both econoboxes (cause I'm cheap and gas is NOT something I love to buy). The 1st was a 96 2.2L Chevy Cavailer making 120 hp and 130 ft/lb of torque. Now I have an 04 Toyota Corolla 1.8L making 130 hp and 125 ft/lb of torque. Similar specs in terms of power and peak torque ratings and the like. Obviously the Corolla has a more efficent engine, getting 30+ mpg and making the same amount of peak power on 0.4 L less. (Of course we are compaing a push rod 8V engine vs. a DOHC VVTI engine). Now real world...the Cavalier was much easier to drive. Torque was on tap, and you had pretty decent power up to around 4k rpm. The Corolla has a very definitive power hole around 1600-2200 rpm (probably tuned this way for max economy), which makes taking off from a start harder. I certainly have to gauge on coming traffic if I'm trying to cross 4 lanes or more. Once you get up to 2800 or so the torque and hp come up and you get steady power up until about 5500 or so. So passing someone is not that bad in the Corolla while taking off from a stand still was much better in the Cavalier. Similar power, different tuning, different results.

I have accidently popped the clutch a couple times at 2500+rpm and the Corolla will certainly move if you are above the torque hole, but I think if you reworked the engine map to get rid of it you would also kill your fuel economy.

You can get you tube videos of K20 transplants in Lotus Exige's and watch them walk away from the Toyota 2ZZ-GE engines. Of course what they also don't show is the fact the stock tranny on the K20 is geared very short (which helps that 0-60 time), while the 2ZZ-GE has a tight band 6 speed with a very tall first gear. Of course the K20 will out accelerate it, you just turned a track car into a drag car. I believe top speed in 1st for the 2ZZ-GE is around 50-55 mph (having riden in a Celica GTS with a similar detuned setup).

Power is power, the way an engine develops it and the hp/torque curves are vastly more important than how many liters it took to make it.

the mustang weights almost 400lbs more than the 350z. thats what makes the 350z competitive to the mustang in a race. the g35 is closer to the weight of the mustang and the mustang serves it breakfast, lunch and dinner everytime (stock vs stock). that v6 and every other v6 making 300 or more hp is going to be doing so on premium. thats why getting 300hp from 4.6 liters is nice while getting 40lbft more of peak torque. the new bullit will make 315hp and 325lbft on regular. when they run on just premium, its noted that make about 10 more for each. thats where the other cars have problems.