Pretty car, but holy cow will that be a pricey venture for the buyer. Gas will probably kill you if this is your daily driver. If there were more info on the internals & performance to justify the price, I would probably feel different. At the moment I feel it's $8k overpriced.

For a weekend toy car or for a collector though, have a blast! I'm sure it'll be tire-shredding fun!

SRT models are ineligable for the "lifetime powertrain warranty" btw, owned

shouldve been 34-35 max

this car is meant to be driven with a manual tranny. why they would have a 5 speed auto is beyond me. a 6 speed dual clutch i would understand.

someone correct me if I'm wrong but I'm assuming the 6 speed is the same as they use in the viper

It will most likely be at least 425hp, since that's what the 6.1L has had for the last few years.

LOVE the styling. But at near $40k, it's going to make any but diehard muscle car fans blanch.

Most other people will look at that price, then start looking at other cars to see what that kind of money can buy. Now you're talking about the meaty parts of Lexus, BMW, Mercedes.

I would love for an American built car to be able to compete with the all around performance levels of cars in that range. But that's a tall order, and mere retro-styling and a big engine won't cut it.

Looking good Dodge...(for a change..)

Looking good Dodge...(for a change..)

Dodge is bringing back, proudly, an icon from the muscle car era. How can you possibly bitch about the cost of fuel and the cost of the car. The first procution cars will be SRT models to make a bold horsepower statement, if the car goes over well as I am sure it will they will begin production on the 5.7L and a V6 model. Take a deep breath and enjoy an exciting car!!!

38k dollors that cheap
that less than 20k english pounds
oh but wait they english will tax the hell out of it
so it cost over 40k english pounds 80k dollors
the germans will do the same so like well cost alot more than a BMW
now that how you keep them cheap american cars out of your country
you think iam lying check out
autoscout24.de
a BMW that sells for 80k euro in germany cost 45k dollors in the states
but a ford that sell for less than 30k dollors in the states cost 45k euros in germany
now that how you keep cheap cars out

It looks almost too wonderful to be true, except i'd probably get different wheels and tyres than those in the pics. very strange looking... It's the best looking thing since the old challenger, shame about the high price!

This might sound strange but I am quite thankful it's not a 4 door. Whew!

Finally, a retro US muscle car done right in contrast to that "blunder from down under" the horrible GTO, that didn't even come close to it's legacy and was almost blasphemy.

I'm going to wait for a 5.7 liter with 6 spd for a bit under $30. With a lifetime powertrain warranty I'll easily get my money's worth. Too bad it'll be more.

Base corvette is only $5 more and they sell for under sticker. @ 38, this thing is too expensive. With options it will be competing with some nice cars.

I hoped it would be a mustang competitor, but from the looks of it it wont be. I'm not going to pay 29k for a v6...

I had a v6 rental charger and it's the slowest car I've ever driven. About 15 seconds 0-70. It was dangerous driving in traffic, you can't pass! Hopefully they'll use a better one in a $30,000 car.

They should have called the "Charger" something different. Then everyone would have liked it, it's a cool car for a 4 door.

Oh man, this car is beautiful. Congrats to Chrysler for bringing this car from concept in a short time.

Now is it worth it 37k? This is much more than the 300 SRT...I'd wait for a couple of months more.

That car is sexy as fuck, but there's no way it's worth almost $40k.

Now I wasn't around in the days of the original Challenger, but I highly doubt it was a luxury-car-expensive model back then. A shame.

Huh, the Challenger SRT-8 is $37,995 and the 300C SRT-8 is $44,360, how exactly does that make the Challenger SRT-8 much more than the 300 SRT, it's over $6k less.

I think this car with its similar looks will steal some thunder from the new Camaro.

@wayne

"I had a v6 rental charger and it's the slowest car I've ever driven. About 15 seconds 0-70. It was dangerous driving in traffic, you can't pass!"

Are you crazy, dont know how to drive, smoked something or what?

I have an econobox, that can fit 5 people.. it has an 1.0liter 65hp engine and can do 0-60 in 15 seconds...(with only the driver on board, ofcorse). So, no way a charger will take that long in a 0-70..

The Charger is also heavier and has worse aerodynamics than most econoboxes Rafael.

As for the Challenger, at $37,995, I agree that someone should just go ahead and buy a Corvette. You can get Corvettes for around $40,000, they get better mileage and are going to be much faster (thanks to being lighter and more aerodynamic).

Only a collector would love this.

Way too high price. Muscle car fans are going to be buying used and pristine and pampered '03/04 Cobras, LS2 GTOs, etc for $25,000 or less that could smoke this 4,200 lb overpriced pig.

Any jackass can build a fast high performance vehicle and sell it for half a million dollars. The muscle car formula was all about bringing value with that performance so the average Joe could actually drive a car like that, not drool over it in a magazine. And cars like this and the GT500 completely miss that formula entirely.

All in all this is an "investors only" car made to cater to the same market as the GT500. You'll never see them on the road, or at a dealer because they will be bought up in lots by investors where they will patiently sit on Ebay for 4x this prince for the next 10 years as with "limited edition" plastered all over the ad.

*4x this price*

I predict the supply of this car to be locked up and hoarded by the elite; the investors and collectors of the Jay Leno variety. And the only way you'll get one is to show up to Barrett Jackson with $100,000 in your pocket.

Dodge did an excellent job on the Challenger which looks and performs like it's predecesor from the 70s, unlike the charger which no longer is a muscle car but an overpowerd family saloon.

I am just afraid that with all American muscle cars this Challenger will have lots of BHP, torque and speed, but will handle like a pregnant duck with a heroine addiction that lost its way.

I'll have to agree with most of the comments on the price...way too expensive for what you get. Dodge has basically said with that price that they only want rich people. I remember when I first heard that the GT500 was coming out...I was so interested in buying one at the MSRP. MSRP meant nothing when the wealthy ate them all up so us normal people couldn't. I also am not impressed with the styling of the new Challenger. It DEFINITELY is retro. To me it looks nothing more than an old Challenger with new wheels...kind of like half the custom cars you see at shows. For the price I'd rather go find an original Challenger. I'm interested to see how the build quality is...probably nothing to brag about, just like the Mustang. I'm anxious to see the new Camaro. Especially if it is as nice as the one on Transformers. That is modern retro.

Agreed with most posts, the Challenger seems to be executed well, but that is alot of money for nostalgia.

I can see the dudes at the car factory doing a lot of overtime.

- "Starts" at $38k.
- Not a single mention of HP?
- Chrysler.

Lol.

"I think this car with its similar looks will steal some thunder from the new Camaro."

At that price, not likely. The Camaro will likely be under $30,000 for the base V8 model. I guessing it'll have the same engine as the new Pontiac G8 GT. I'm sure the Z28 will be more pricey since there's talk that it'll have the LS7.

The Challenger is a good looking car, but the new G8 is too and its $10,000 less. Doesn't take that much to bump the horsepower up on an LS2 either to get the cars to equal footing for power(cam kit + tuning = 400 rwhp). And I'm guessing over 4000 lbs. GVWR for that Challenger, so its no slender vehicle.

It is a great looking car, but I don't think anybody is going to get one for 38K. Once the dealers get these cars they will mark it up as much as they want, you will be lucky if you can get one for 50K. This was the same as when the Viper first came out, 60K sticker, 80K out the door at the dealer, if you could find one.

Looks really nice, but IMO the new Camaro is a better blend of old and new.

It's twenty thousand dollar car they will sell to suckers and pocket 18 grand.

You guys do understand that this is the more limited edition SRT version, with the suped up 6.1L that has been making 425 hp for the last few years, and there is a chance it could make more than that in this car because Chrysler seems to want to get this one just right.

And a Vette for under 40K? you must be smoking some good stuff the last I looked the base msrp was around 46K and it was virtualy impossible between dealer markup and options to get one off the lot for under 50K.

Also the regular V8 which will still seriously outgun a Mustang is more likely to be in the 29~32K range which should be fine, and I would not be suprized to see the big V6 that makes around 250 hp show up in a 24~27K priced model, we can only wait to see how they price it, but I am sure when they roll out the non premium priced versions you won't be as dissapointed with the price.

You guys do understand that this is the more limited edition SRT version, with the suped up 6.1L that has been making 425 hp for the last few years, and there is a chance it could make more than that in this car because Chrysler seems to want to get this one just right.

And a Vette for under 40K? you must be smoking some good stuff the last I looked the base msrp was around 46K and it was virtualy impossible between dealer markup and options to get one off the lot for under 50K.

Also the regular V8 which will still seriously outgun a Mustang is more likely to be in the 29~32K range which should be fine, and I would not be suprized to see the big V6 that makes around 250 hp show up in a 24~27K priced model, we can only wait to see how they price it, but I am sure when they roll out the non premium priced versions you won't be as dissapointed with the price.

a $20,000 car? what can you get for $20K? a "Smart Car" that is 5' wide and 8' long and not much more.

here is the math people.
consider what a challenger cost in 1971 and don't forget it was an extra $1200 bucks to get the 426 hemi and only that monster could produce 425hp. compare that to the average wage at the time. Now do the same thing with a $40K car and todays average wage and you'll discover that the price compared to wages has gone up by about 1.5X

then do the same thing with house prices or anything else and you'll soon discover that most other important things like houses have gone up 2.5X or more and the extras in life have gone through the roof.

Even back when I was a teenager an hour of minimum wage pay bought be a few bottles of pop, a couple chocolate bars and a bag of chips with some cash left over. Good luck with that now!

Compared to the increase in prices of so many other things in life since the early 70's the price of this awesome machine with power to spare is actually a pretty good bargain.

When will the retro end? It first started with Ford with the Thunderbird and then Porsche with its 911 and now Dodge and GM have gotten into the mix. Retro is good in small doses, but these car companies are going to end up overdoing it to the point where the avg person isn't going to pay attention anymore to the retro styling. It happened to Ford with the throwback Thunderbird. Sure it got a lot of attention for the first year, but the last half of its lifespan people saw it as another car on the road. I think prodcuing a retro styling car for short peroids would keep its interest alive. IMO they should have done that with the current retro mustang.

It's like a repeat of the 60s all over again. Ford makes the Mustang, GM and Chrysler follow suit. Oh the pony car craze.

However, it seems to be a better idea to just go and restore an old Challenger than drop 40k on this one. But that's just what I'd do. And I did it with a Mustang, and it was only 4 grand to start with. So..a bit of a difference there I suppose.

Thats a good point John P. You probably cannot restore a old Challenger to pristine condition with plenty of goodies like leather seats and what not for $40,000, but I'd bet that to get a shop to drop in an engine, some decent seats and make it driveable would cost way less. Doing it yourself would of course be even better, but then again short of building a car from absolute scratch, thats always a money saving alternative.

The new Camaro better weigh less than this. Did Chris say it was going to weigh 4200 pounds? A E63 AMG weighs that much, and its a damn wagon! Hell it actually weighs less!

The Challenger and E-Class are in totally different categories, but when your Muscle Car weighs as much as a luxury wagon with a DOHC V8, then there is a problem here. What gives? The car will indeed take off in a straight line but unless it has whatever makes the Veyron handle so well (and with over $900,000 separating those two in price, I doubt it), this car is going to have trouble parking even.

@boomer

I've seen several dynos of stock 426 hemis making over 800hp.

Alot of cars were underrated for hp back then.

So if you do price/hp. Its a better deal than some cars, but still not nearly as good as they had it in the 70s.

Boy, that is one ugly ass car. I've been a fan of the old muscle cars anyway, but that is even uglier than most.

The 70's called and wants their car design back.

eh, looks old already!!

cant american car companies come out with something new instead of re-using old body styles??

I ain't paying $38G for a car, that will look even older in 3 years!!

Awsome!!!

Great run man! Sweet car, 219!!! OMG:)

Let the rabbits wear glasses.xp

30 plus years to fix this and it still won't run right !! MB knows cars and they don't even want have any part of this crap called DODGE

@mf

"I've seen several dynos of stock 426 hemis making over 800hp."

No way in hell. A lot of cars were underrated, but not that bad. Even with higher compression and leaded gas there is no way a "stock" 426 rolled off the showroom floor making over 800hp.

The 426 is a very buildable motor, and a lot of custom-built 426's make over 800hp, but not from the factory.

Consider the HORRIBLE suspension, brakes and tires of the time. How driveable would that be, really? A car with that kind of power would be making similar torque numbers as well. That would have dessimated Chrysler's transmissions and rear axles of the time.

Hmmm, since when do we associate "muscle" with the bloated and overweight? Let's add more HP to compensate for the added weight. These new "muscle" cars keep packing on the lbs...meanwhile gas prices keep rising.

Muscle cars use to be affordable to blue collar workers. Now mostly only white collar workers can afford them and at that price I'm sure they would rather be seen in a bmw 135i, Infinity G37 or an IS350. Sure you can get the base V8, but the toyota camry V6 can accelerate almost as fast if the charger r/t has any indication (1/4 mile times- Charger R/T 14.2 seconds at 101mph, Toyota Camry V6 14.3 seconds at 99mph source Car and Driver). Hopefully the camaro will be priced better and not get embarrased by the Smith's in their toyota camry.

I come up with what looks like an official curb weight of 4160 lbs for the 300C and 4031 lbs for the Hemi Charger. I seriously doubt that Challenger will weigh more than either of those.
I am going to guess that the curb weight will be around 3800~3900 lbs.

Still very porky mind you, but not 4200 lbs.

4200 was the weight for the magnum

mf: I've worked on old carburated 440 motors, engines that put the old Hemi to shame, and none of those engines produced 800hp stock. Hell I had an old Grand Fury once, the car cops used to chase down Hemis back then, and although that motor was old (this was one of my first cars I picked up in the junkyard), after doing some well overdo maintence the car was still slower than my next one, a 79 Bronco. Granted that the person I bought if from had a prestine condition Ford 351 in it with a brand new Holly 750cfm carb, but it was a damn TRUCK all the same.

Nostalgia aside though, I doubt anyone would get more than mid 500hp or so out of one of those old engines without building it up. You can buy built ones at Jegs.com for very low 5 figures, and those are putting out 800hp or so.

Give me a break, we are talking about a car under $50,000 and most of you guy's worry about is fuel mileage and weight transfer this car is giving bang for the buck if you don't like it buy a fast&furious piece of junk. This car is being built for nostalgia
not fuel economy.

This is the car that is suppose to take market share from the Ford Mustang?

Yes.