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ok now i have good question. that or a vette? my friend said screw that skyline and would rather havea vette. i want to know which car would win? IN a drag, and on the track.

In a straight line, the Vette would take it.

On a track it's going to be close. The GT-R should be able to edge out a win though.

what makes you think the vette would win in a drag?

for god stake , people why are you guys comparing a car thats not even out yet to a cars thats been out. Wait for the GTR to come then compared both of them. people don't know the virtues of patiences.

ppl who'd rather buy a corvette should do just that... I'm certain that there are just as many ppl who'd prefer the GTR more (i personally think that it's ugly). It's like comparing apples and oranges.
For instance, just b/c a hyundai azera is supposed to be "just as luxurious as a LS460", it doesn't mean that i'm about to trade in my lexus and learn to park on my own...think about it!
...ok...just kidding ;)

The GT-R has the pedigree to win at the track easily, remember the original Skyline beat Ferrari's around the Nuremburgring, and the GT-R has an updated suspension in addition to the new power.

Against a stock Corvette, the GT-R has both more power and better expected handling. Against the Z06, things change, but not by much.

I'd be certain it'd win at the track, but in a drag the main advantage of the GT-R is its AWD. Where as the Z06 will spend a second burning out, the GT-R will launch without wheelspin (if the R34 is any indication). Instead of wasting time burning the tires, the GT-R will just launch.

And it does not have that much less power. The R34 not only revved quick but its powerband was very full, and for more displacement in addition to updated turbo's, I'd only expect the GT-R to have as much torque as a Z06 (it only has 470 ft-lbs at 4800 RPM), if not more. Twin Turbo engines have been very effective at adding low-end torque to cars, look at the BMW 3 series: the twin turbo setup there gives it 300 ft-lbs out of a inline six, and its peak is right at 1800 RPM. Plenty fun to drive and plenty fast out of the box.

All in all, those saying to wait until the car is out are right, that is when the best measurements can be made. But its not to much a stretch to say the GT-R is on par with a Z06 in a straight line, and definitely going to beat it at the track.

This car at laguna seca pulled a time of 1:39. something which Ive seen a z06 go faster. As for that bmw as far as i know they only make diesel tt so of course its gonna make more torque then it but having a turbo motor means theres lots of heavy things you have to add to the motor to make it get that kind of power. A z06 motor is fairly light and small I bet the vd38tt with the turbos and stuff if a rather larger engine. Not to say it cant beat the power output of a z06 crank the boost up and hey its making more power but a N/A motor is always going to be more responsive then a turbo motors thats just a fact.

Vettes are for poofs

to "unknown" poster, research before you spew off blatantly wrong info.

"As for that bmw as far as i know they only make diesel tt"

It's called the 335i, twin-turbo aluminum block. Factory under-rated at 300hp/300tq.

"but having a turbo motor means theres lots of heavy things you have to add to the motor to make it get that kind of power"

Like what? The turbos, intercooler and oil cooler? That barely adds any weight. Every modern forced induction car uses an aluminum block and head.

"Not to say it cant beat the power output of a z06 crank the boost up and hey its making more power"

As evidence by this statement, you know NOTHING about forced induction.

As for the original debate about Z06 vs GT-R, I think the GT-R will take it in every performance test aside from possibly the standing mile & top speed. But a recent Motor Trend article had the Z06 only topping 170mph something on an oval.

While I think the styling isn't an improvement on the R34, I don't think it is as bad as a lot of people on here, and the previous GTR article say. You'll defnitely notice one on the street. On the video the body gives it a very "stiff/rigid" look giving me a visual impression of handling. Hard to explain I guess. I would definitely lower it a little bit. I'm anxious to see its performance numbers. That and quality. For all the talk about straight-line and track performance, most people aren't going to beat this thing on the track. It will be a street car and it will probably have less rattles and other issues than a Corvette. I also love Corvettes though;)

Right on Noya, all valid points.

What most people fail to realise is that anyone other than a professional race driver is going to get much quicker lap times with the Skyline due to its electronic wizardry – atessa is the official marketing BS name.

I.e. Your granny could post a good lap time in the GTR, meanwhile in the Z06 you’d be flying off the road and into the bushes quicker than you could say “Push-rod P.O.S” ;)

^^ RJ has a good point. The GT-R is easy car to drive fast, the Corvette isn't. The GT-R IMHO has a nicer interior and probably works much better as a daily driver. A GT-R is a lot easier to enjoy than many other cars in its price range and at the end of the day, isn't that what matters most??

I think most people are missing the point. Corvette owners are fiercely loyal and will probably continue to purchase another Corvette. The GT-R is finally a stateside answer to the Skyline. The Skyline also has had a fervent and dedicated fan base. So this car will appeal to them.

A full comparison test will determine the virtues and faults of this or any other car. Again, I do not think that Corvette or GT-R buyers will avoid buying them if one is slower than the other. That is what the aftermarket is for.

The old Acura NSX wasn't the fastest car, but well balanced and light. It also was very forgiving , so that driver mistakes could easily be overcome. The GT-R has a plethora of high tech features to assist the driver. The Corvette will demand more of a driver's attention at speed. It is not a slam on the Corvette, it is just that both cars have different approach to speed. At the end of the day, these cars appeal to different target groups.

Well, it is a Skyline... And as everyone knows(or should know at least), the reason they are incredibly popular is because they respond to modification so well and are extremely reliable while making high power on stock equipment.

They aren't popular because of stock performance or stock power levels, but because of high easily you can ditch the stock power levels for relatively cheap.

Plus, this new engine has to prove itself. It's not the old bulletproof inline 6 engines as in previous Skylines.

Noya have you ever picked up a turbo, how much did it weigh. Because the turbos ive picked are pretty heavy. And yes in most instances increasing the boost on a f/i car will increase its power output relative to air fuel ratio and intake air velocity. And I do know something about f/i as my car is currently running a s/c. And im not quoting from a magazine I have seen what a z06 can do with a good driver in it, ive sat shotgun and felt what a z06 can do with a good driver in it on a race track. Im sure the gt-r will be fast but their quoted time on laguna seca of 1.29xx is something ive seen beaten by a stock z06.

Overall I like the looks, but I think from the side view, the frontend is too aggressive compared to the back. You have flares and hood scoops, and the rear half of the car has nothing. Not that it is bad, but it does not match for me. It looks like the put a mean frontend onto plain Nissan 350Z.

A little off topic, but still relevant:

All of this "z06 vs GT-R" reminds me of an interesting article I read in 'Road and Track:Speed' magazine in november of 05. They took a totally pimped 470hp GT-R (not the new model, of course), vs a stock 6.0L Corvette, vs 2 sportbikes (one stock, one lightly race prepped). The intent of the article was more "car v bike", but it was still interesting and a hell of a good read. I guess R&T kept getting so much fan mail about which are faster, cars or bikes.

Common wisdom would say on a straight line, bikes are faster, and in the twisties, cars are faster (4 wide tires, more grip). To everyone's (including my) surprise, the bikes slaughtered the cars. This was on a track which had both straight aways and some tight twisties. The stock 600cc sportbike (Kawi ZX-6R) bested a 'stock' 6000cc 'vette by 10 seconds a lap. A (very) mildly race-prepped ZX-10r (1000cc, stock engine, race suspension, race tires) bested the fully race prepped GT-R by about 2-3 seconds per lap. Turns out the bikes had them beat on the straight aways as you would guess, but apparently the twisties were no help for the cars.

Kind of an interesting article.

I had a used R33 GTS sedan two years ago, the best car I had owned and the noise it makes after a simple Apexi intake mod (and the removal of the resonator). It wasn't turbocharged and it wasn't that fast, but I loved every minute of it. Can't wait for the next GT-R and I think it looks beautiful. Cars are perhaps like women, it is not always the most beautiful one that you fall in love with.

I agree the car is really agressive looking but then again thats going to get alot of attention on the streets. i doubt anyone is actually going to take this car on the drag strip on a regular basis as a race car. But to the top on hand in my opinion i think that the GT-R would win against a Stock Z06. Sorry if anyone gets offended that is just my personal opinion.