Finally! Lets just hope the weight will be less or at least equal to the CTR and that the engine will be raw and not something to please the low-rpm loving americans.

/Z

I can tell just by looking at the pics that it won't have the same light airy feel of the original CRX's... the doors come up too high. Also the dashboard and hood are pretty high as well. Looks like sitting in that car, as it is at the moment, would lead someone to feel claustrophobic.

Also, they had better build it on the Honda Fit platform as the Civic platform is too big (particularly in width) for something like a CRX.

And the top engine had better be something like a hopped up R series or a K series engine.

I could accept the tall hood if there's a K-series engine under it.

I miss my CR-X (totalled, long story). When can I place my order for one of these, this is the first new car to give my "I want it NOW" itch a scratch in a long, long time.

Looks great!, but just looking at the body exterior, whats the price range Honda is aiming at?.... looks like above the current Civic Type R range.... can its core fan base afford it?

Z:

Define 'raw'

Oh yes lets give it a high revving gutless 'race' engine that you won't even be able to get into it's power band between stop lights.

I still don't get the obsession with having to rev the crap out of an engine to make power in a daily driven stop and go city street car. Real live driving != video game driving.

It looks A LOT like a newer version of a cr-x, so it's an obvious successor...

I owned a 90 CR-X and loved it, modded it, drove it hard and hated to have to sell it. I waited as long as I could for a Honda to create something like it so I could buy a new one, but it's obvious that they are SLOW at making it happen so I bought something else.

If it is a hybrid, I hope it's light weight, and zippy like the cr-x. If it is a hybrid, I hope they make it so it's easily modded....who knows, I'm for and against the whole hybrid movement...

Looks good, other than the back end... Lets hope it gets made and it is small and light.

The front end is very very similar to the mkII Audi TT. Its virtually the same car with a highly back end. Lets try to be original here.

Love the looks of this car.

Seems to me that it appears to be a futuristic CR-X.

Also love the back end, stand out in a crowd.

Gotta love Honda, they are always pushing the envelope. Whether its in cars or motorcycles. I've owned and loved all of my Hondas which include:

94 Honda Civic LX (still runs true to this day)
2002 Honda VT 750 ACE Deluxe
2007 VTX 1300C

Chris Honda engines are not bad, they sound fantastic at high revs, they drive well at lower revs, they get good gas milage. In a light weight car they can be quick enough that most people are pretty happy, I mean a Civic Si costs just over $20K, gets over 30 mpg on the highway and can go from 0~60 in 6.7~7.3 seconds depending on who you ask, It is a pretty good car other than the hideous interior.

A 190 hp Lotus Elise spanked both a 2006 Corvette and a Shelby GT-500 at the race track in a recent review I read, you figure that one out Mr. American Muscle.

The benifit of high output small displacement engines is that they weigh less than V-8's leading to a lighter car, and to a better F/R weight distribution, which allows for better handling.

Anyways if the CR-X has at least the Si motor, decent front leg room, is lighter than the Civic Si, and Has a decent Interior I might consider one though I am looking at buying a new car in about a year so it's not likely to be out in time.

They should put in the rdx motor with sh-awd. Add the hybrid drivetrain from the accord hybrid and the convert it to plugin, and stick a 6 speed in it.

They could tune the turbo for high rpm, because the electric motor would take care of torque at the lowend.

This crap would easily fit into that huge hood. Mount the battery behind the seats, and you've got a good weight distribution too.

Travis:

Couldn't have said it better myself.

However I wouldn't expect the SI motor even as an option. I don't think Honda will be willing to make the CR-Z faster than the SI. I certainly hope I'm wrong, but don't think I will be. Expect the 1.8 from the EX, at best, as the "go fast" option.

Gary:
Didn't the original CRX Si have the same engine as the Civic Si hatchback back in the day?

CR-Z type R...I can see it already. If they released this car under Acura with the 2.3T from the RDX, is would be a killer competitor to the A3.

Marc:

A quick google couldn't help me out, so I'd have to say I'm not sure... If it does get released with the K20 this may be a nice little pocket rocket. Perhaps the future Civic SI's will get a K24?

Gary:

Yeah I just did a quick search and all Si models had the 1.6L engine. Which means the 4th generation Civic hatchback Si and CRX Si both shared the same 1.6L engine. Let's hope Honda releases the next CRX with the same K20 engine as the Civic Si. The K24 would be nice for the added torque...

This car looks amazing! Honda better produce it! I think a ~200HP and roughly ~1200kg curb weight would make this car awesome. Put all-wheel drive in it for fun!

I little bit to much function sacrificed for styling. I like the idea of a small lightwieght car with a hatchback with a zippy enough motor to make it fun while still enjoying the satisfaction of great economy.

Regarding the Lotus car and driver lightning lap against the '06 Vette and the Gt 500:
The Lotus certainly handles well but, in the test it bested the vette by a mere point one second. This is with the Lotus being equipped with its special option of a track full race package featuring Yokohama A048s . This is hardly a street tire and even car and driver points this out. As for the GT 500 it had two bad coils so it was running on only six of its eight cylinders as usual Fords biggest handicap. The Lotus is a mid-engine car and it is inappropriate to class it against front engine rear drive cars. A comparison of mid-engine vehicles would mean more. In that case it puts it in the Ford Gt’s category and as we know it is not an even match up. Ultimately drivability comes into play, and American muscle makes a trip to the grocery store fun, reasonably safe and in most cases reliable. This is much more feasible then cramming into a tuna can with a solid rocket attached. Look good living, not living just to look good. That’s the American legacy of freedom.

A 190 hp Lotus Elise spanked both a 2006 Corvette and a Shelby GT-500 at the race track in a recent review I read, you figure that one out Mr. American Muscle.

I can say for a fact that Ive seen a lotus on a track and its no where near as fast as a corvette. Plus you also have to take into accout that the lotus uses dot-r tires which are known to be around 4-8 seconds faster then normal tires. As well as lotus are good at the straights any big track like wsir or cal speedway roval the lotus keeps up in the turns but the lack of power will kill in on the straights. Not only that it has no interior and isnt much of a car you can drive to the store and back thats what both the ford and vette can do.
The crx needs to have a tiny engine like the old crxs has like a d16 or something a engine that doesnt make much power but gets great mpg and with the lower weight will do the job quite well.

Can't we all agree this year and the next will be a good time for cars. I'm astounded by the number of exciting and interesting cars that are finally coming out after so dam long.

am i the only one reading this right?

....this new concept is a hybrid powertrain, which could be identical to the Honda Civic Hybrid....
....lightweight hybrid sports car features advanced technologies ...reducing the vehicle's environmental footprint....

This interesting 2+2 crx concept will get the 1.3l gas-electric engine from the civic. If it costs less than the civic it will be a huge success.

John:

X2!! My GS-R is approaching the 200k mark so I'm getting a bit anxious for some nice cars to be coming out.

Yes Obviously the Elise shouldnt be compared to the Corvette or The GT500 neither of which can realisiticly be touched for under 50K Dollars, The 46K Lotus should be compared to a 130K Ford GT.

The Tires do not add 4~8 seconds, that comment just makes my head throb. In the Lightning lap tests That would be like saying sticky tires could make a Cobalt SS perform like a Lancer Evo, or a regular Corvette as fast or faster than the Z06. They help but realisticly it's more like a .3~1 second difference on a well set up car, not an 8 second difference.

Also the Lotus Elise has a trackday brother in the Lotus Exige which would have likely been 2~4 seconds faster it not more around the track.

Glad Honda is (finally) taking another look at the CRX niche. My '90 was a great combination of economy, reliability, affordability, and fun handling and performance. It certainly wasn't tops in any of those categories, but nothing on the market, then or now, came close to the total package.

That era CRX came in 3 flavours. The Si had the same engine as the Civic Si, and was a good little pocket rocket. The HF had a smaller displacement engine and took a number of steps to lighten up in order to get better gas milage (up to 60mpg in some cases.) The DX's, like mine, slotted between the Si and HF.

This new one? Sounds like they are targetting it's functionality at the HF crowd, while targetting its styling at the Si crowd. Perhaps Honda is planning to serve both by producing two versions? An HF with a plug-in Hybrid driveline, and an Si or Type R with a stronger engine and other go-fast goodies?

We'll see.

Chris:

Buddy.. First.. generally speaking, there are several types of classes of vehicles.. You want an everyday grocery shopper, you buy something that actually is made for that.. That's why there are 2-5 engine types to choose from when buying a car.
A Type-R is made (well, used to be made anyways) for people with the desire to actually put their car to the test every now and then on the race track and then actually you get pretty close to(real life driving == video game driving). ;P

Second.. Driving between the redlights, with an engine like the ones Honda makes, ie VTEC engines, outputs a much lower pollution rate than your average "super torque from 100rpm" made-in-usa crap that consumes gas for 400hp when you're actually doing 20mph in the city.

The "raw" Honda engines, eventhough made for having some fun, actually are pretty nice to the environment when not being pushed to the redline. So yes, I would prefer the the high revving engine.

/Cheers

I have 2 honda rice burners, and i run them up to 6.5 and 7 grand at nearly every light (providing the morons driving those v8 cars step on the gas). 1 of them i've been doing that with consitently since 96. I guarantee you I would have no problem running the s2000 up to its 8000, or 9000 rpm redline for the older 1, every single chance I got some open road.

thought this was another thread.

I wouldn't have any problem redlining this car either. Atleast I won't have to drive really slowly most the time because i'm afraid my "beast" of a motor will drink my tank empty in a couple hours worth of driving.

Did you people even read it?! It's supposed to be a high performance hybrid. It should have buttloads of low-end torque and a huge power band. You're arguing about gas engine RPMs and they are irrelevant.

About the body itself: looks too big and clunky. Why is there a giant scoop on the front? Why are the windows tiny? The hood seems too high.

Like others here I also miss my CRX. :-'( That car would do +90mph down snoqualmie pass with the engine OFF (hit the top at 70, turn the engine off, and watch the needle climb) and you could go from 70 to 100 on accident just making a couple passes. On 104hp.

I like the design overall, but the rear end is a bit high and boxy. Perhaps that is for additional cargo capacity.

As far as drivetrain, give me as much low end torque as possible for instant passing power in heavy traffic. I like high RPMs for the open road. 8000 RPM in heavy traffic just makes you a tard.

Hybrid battery assist will probably be used to augment low end torque, like the Accord Hybrid. Read the third paragraph.

What this means is that it will have a high-revving, small displacement gas engine with some low- end grunt. The 'R' model, if there is one, will probably get less than 30mpg. Hell, if you drive a Mini hard you can bring it down to that.

The big question will be weight, of course.

You must be a short little shit to not post my comment.

Hi can anyone please help by telling me if i can change a set of 4 17 inch or 18 inch rims on the honda civic hybrid it only come with a 15 inch rims
please advice ASAP thanks
Best regards
eric
geric@singnet.com.sg

Hi can anyone please help by telling me if i can change a set of 4 17 inch or 18 inch rims on the honda civic hybrid it only come with a 15 inch rims
please advice ASAP thanks
Best regards
eric
geric@singnet.com.sg