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2009 Corvette ZR1 Caught at Laguna Seca...It's the Most Powerful Corvette Ever!

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There has been speculation for quite a while about a new 600-700 horsepower "Blue Devil" Corvette. Well yesterday the car hit the track at the Laguna Seca Raceway for a few quick laps (take a look at the video).

The ultimate Corvette has been rumored with many different names: Z07, Blue Devil, SS or Sting Ray. Now according to sources the final name of the super Corvette will be ZR1.

The ZR1 will feature a supercharged version of the new 6.2L V8 in the 2008 Corvette and it will put out somewhere between 600-700 horsepower. According to sources the car will reach 0-60 in the 3 second range and will cost around $100,000. The car is also lighter than the current Z06.

According to GM Vice President Bob Lutz, "This thing has so much power…We’re really into a speed and power realm that General Motors has never been in before. We’re way up there with Porsche Carrera GTs and Ferraris.”

Expect the official unveiling of the ZR1 at the upcoming Detroit Auto Show.

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Comments (50)

Josh:

Sure, it has as much power as a carrera GT or a Ferrari but can it handle like one? Going in a straight line has never been something i enjoyed doing in a car...

Just my .02

Carter:

Absolutely amazing car. Detroit is making some major strides in all sectors of the Auto industry these days. Here's a fine example of a $100k car that's going to post track times on par with its European $200k counterparts. And yes I know it's "not the same to drive" as everybody likes to point out, but it still sounds like a bargain to me.

JohnnyNismo:

Corvette needs to have the black guy that designed the Cadillac CTS and it's interior design and interior for the Corvette. It needs a face lift INSIDE! That guy has great taste in styling and should be responsible for making the Vette look as good on the inside as it does on the outside.

Niz:

it still has leaf springs in the back instead of independent suspension... yes folks from the same technology that brought you the ox cart...


Gary:

Josh:

Believe it or not, Laguna Seca is like a second home to any Vette... I'm by no means a Vette lover but the thing can actually handle pretty good.

unknown:

Josh:
there is a reason alot of track racers use corvettes.
Niz:
you are a retard yes it uses a single leaf spring with irs the spring goes over the diff and acts as 2 springs because its lighter then 2 conventional coil springs.


This car will probably has a crappy interior but im sure its gonna be one of the fastest cars you can buy in all aspects.

patrick:

Actually, this car will best a 911 and runs about = to a 430. Take a look at the auto show Top Gear (Great show!) Ans NO>..I am not a covert guy!
They test this very thing(though the previous model year) and it is brilliant on the track.
Sadly, this is where its besting the others stops. The ride is extremely hard and does not lend itself well to everyday driving as the 911 does.
For a track car, nothing better for the money or almost 2x the money than the z06, but as something to live with everyday, there are far better choices.
Much improved looks though over the last couple years. However, quality remains a big concern for this car. Reliability has been 1/2 of average as reported by consumer reports.
Again....great looking car. I happen to think that front looks in every way like a Ferrari, but 60 grand less. ;)

Niz:

@ Patrick:
How do you conclude this looks like a ferrari in any way at all? Ferraris have beautiful curves, this thing looks like a piece of tupperware.
To me power isn't everything when the ride is so bad and the car so ugly. I mean if you live in or near a city, top speed and 0-60 times are irellevant enough that you would want to sacrifice anything else for it.

Travis:

First note there are a lot of variations on the 911, the high end ones will beat this Vette around the track.

A lot of racers remove the leaf springs from the Vette and convert it to have compact coil overs, I doubt that racers would be doing that if the stock suspension was soooo good.

This is still a $100,000 car with the interior quality of a dodge Caliber, GM would really be doing themselves a favor if they added $5,000 to the cost of a Vette and brought the quality up to par with heck even their $20,000 Malibu.

The Vette is fast around a track, but it got paned and badly in a handling review when it was compared to other cars like the Lancer Evo, the Lotus Elise, a Caymen S or 911 GT3. The words nervous, harsh, spooky, and jittery came up to describe the Vette.

Noya:

^^ Touche

jeremy:

I think if we take a step back and look at it from a fundamental economic point of view, i would venture to say that surely this car is not as bad as all the "purists" of other cars would like everyone else to believe. Consumers drive demand and apparently there is enough people out their demanding that GM make this car. Therefore this tells me, as it should tell you, that well this car is good enough for a whole lot of people. Plain and simple. Not to mention the costs is well below most any european car from a performance standpoint.

Niz:

good point Jeremy you hit the nail on the head:
>> this car is good enough for a whole lot of people.
As you say... some people will give good money for anything.

>> the costs is well below most any european car from a performance standpoint.
...and any European car has better handling and build quality.


Allen:

Actually, rumors about this car leaked a couple of years ago, right around when the Z06 was released, and afterwards interest built up. Just because there is chatter about a car though does not mean it will be bought: not to many people can afford a $100,000 car, those that can probably will demand a better interior and softer ride (that is not less track worthy) first. In other words, General Motors created a buzz about this car, intentionally or not, but unless the interior comes up to par with their $26,000 Malibu, I do not think many purists or rich people with to much money will buy a $100,000 Chevrolet.

And think about it: in 2008 the standard edition Corvette comes with an the same engine minus the supercharger for $45,285 minus tax title and liscense. Add a $5000 supercharger, new exhaust system (headers, cats, and cat-back) for $2000-$3000, new suspension (you know the after-market will have a better suspension available soon) for maybe $2000 ish, new cam for a few hundred then re-tune the engine, and you will have spent what, $12,000 on parts? Add lets say $8000 in labor (thats a hell of a lot of overkill on labor but lets just assume).

So what, for $65,000 dollars you can get all the power of the Blue Devil plus better suspension. True-blue Corvette Enthusiasts will probably not be of the $100,000 mindset or pocket-book anyway, so I can see them easily just forking over the money for some aftermarket parts to get the same if not better performance.

Unless the Blue Devil was meant to have an incredibly small production run, or unless the interior and suspension are vastly improved, it won't sell well among the upper class and the enthusiasts would rather just bolt on their own upgrades.

Funny stuff:

I like the "any European car has better quality and handling bit" how about a Fiat? Most European models have quality that is very poor. This covers BMW, MB, VW, Audi, Fiat, Alfa, Land Rover, Citroen, Renault, Peugot, Seat. YEs I am from Europe so I know. Now that I live in the US, I know how bad the cars there really are and they are not much better here and that is why Toyota and HOnda are cleaning the clocks of European makers.

unknown:

Hey dont forget a rover 75 will outhandle this car any day of the week. I know of a few really high end cars from europe that will handle on par or a little better then this on but they are either a pos aka tvr with huge reliability problems or its a lambo gallardo which is gonna cost more money and make less power.

Kevin:

This is a $100k car that will annihilate $300k cars and run with $500k - $1M cars. People don't buy cars like this for a nice interior. Functional is the name of the game, and the Vette certainly fits the bill. Compared to the only other car that offers near the performance for near the price - the Dodge Viper - the Vette's interior looks like a Bentley.

The 2008 Corvette in standard form has a 436hp LS3. With nothing but a cam and exhaust, that motor is good for 600hp. Or you could add the supercharger and probably match the output of the ZR1. There is however, one problem - you'd still have a car that weighs about 500lbs more than the ZR1. So 650hp in a standard Vette isn't going to cut it against 650hp in a ZR1. Not to mention the stellar suspension, and crazy brakes the ZR1 has.

Import and Euro fans will always find things to hate about the Vette because it continually bests more expensive Porsches, Ferraris, Lambos...etc. Personally, i'm happy that I will be able afford to pick up a 2-3 year used ZR1 down the road and actually OWN that kind of performance.

John:

The front lights are sooooo ugly, this car needs a redesign.

Travis:

Kevin I think you are confused.

911 GT2, 530 hp, substantially lightened compared to other 911's, based on the track numbers I have seen for it, the ZR1 will be looking at it's backside all day long on a racetrack even if the Chevy can out accelerate it's 3.5~3.7 second 0~60. Oh yeah it costs 190K not 300, The Ferrari 599 GTB has 620 hp, amazing ride and handling, is stunning inside and out, if you compare the interiors it's night and day, the Ferrari is also totally devoid of any cheap exterior plastic body parts. it costs around 265K so it's well under the 300K thresh hold you mentioned.

If you want to get to 300K you can through in the Caparo T1, which will hit 60 in under 2.5 seconds, and cross 100 mph in less than 5 seconds, and seriously trounce the Vette on a race track, by which I mean laping the ZR1 at a guess about once every 10 laps.

for a million you get a Veyron which even if it weighs almost as much as a Ford Explorer is still well out of the performance realm of the Vette.

I don't think the Vette is a horrible car, I do think it's a bit of a farce to try to charge the prices that GM seems to want for some versions of it. Honestly it started life as a $45,000 car, It has the interior of a $45,000 car, one that has most of it's budget dedicated to performance for that matter. To be what it is the Vette had to make a lot of compromises, ones that are acceptable in a $45,000 car, but a lot less forgivable in something that costs $100,000.

Bottom line at 45K the Vette is a great car, even with upgraded performance at 100K it's overpriced.

Jason:

About the leaf springs, they are currently better than a coil spring setup. The only advantage coil springs have are that they are easier to change in and out, and they are cheaper to manufacturer. This only becomes an advantage when you deal with a track car. Being able to change springs to suit the track is a major plus. That's the sole reason most race teams switch to coil overs. Other than that, leaf springs are better in most ways.

Leaf springs allow the suspension to become wider instead of higher. In other words, instead of having a vertical coil spring, you can use a horizontal leaf spring. Since the Leaf springs lay flat, they have minimal impact on the height of the vehicle suspension. Used with shorter shocks(which only need to enough for suspension travel), you can have a more compact suspension which equals lower ride height. This allows you to build a car that is very low with a lowered center of gravity and a good amount of wheel travel.

As shock dynos will show, a car equipped with leaf springs(probably only the corvette now) generally has better rebound and dampening qualities, which equates to better use of the shocks.

Also, the Corvette's are very balanced and handle extremely well at the limit. I've only ever driven a ITR prepped C5(at Mid-Ohio), but it was phenomenal. The handling was comparable to a prepped MR2 Spyder, albeit at a higher speed. Our car is an FC RX7, and I'd always thought that handled well.

I believe this car could probably match a top-of-the-line 911. The 911 may be midengine, but they're chassis is derived from an aging platform. These new Corvettes have the transmission placed right in front rear diff for more equal weight distribution while remaining front-rear. I think the aim for this car is 599 or the new PVO Viper.

I'm not really into Corvettes, but I believe GM deserves a bit of respect for making such a car. However, they are straying from the Corvette formula with the price, so this may be the beginning of the end of Corvette.

RX-7 Guy:

Travis:

I love all the handling comments on the vette. More than likely they had the traction control turned off to make a apples to apples comparison. My RX-7 is rather nervous at the track and seems twitchy. Pretty scary until you get use to it at that point it's fast and predictable.

Kevin:

No cam and exhaust is going to extract 600 HP from an LS3. Maybe with full straight exhaust you might get close to 500 with a major hit to the low end. Some type forced induction or Nos would do it though. The stock vette exhaust is pretty efficient same with the cam.

600-700HP should require a special permit. That's just a crazy amount of power. I do over 125 in the quarter and enough to scare about any passenger that every riden in my car. This car should be capable of over 130.

Vetter:

Here we go again ALL U GUYS DO IS TALK TRASH ALL DAY ABOUT CARS U NEVER DRIVEN OR OWNED . How can u comment about what somebody else said did u test the handling of the car no because u dont own it or none of the cars u guys say is better , and no lambo or anything less then a enzo from ferrari, matter fact nothing less then 200k is beating this car around a track no matter what u american car haters say. Half of u never seen half the cars u down and or praise u just run your mouth I'll take my 07 Zo6 line it up against any car YOU GUYS OWN and tost u period. rant done . i'll will be getting the nissan gtr when it comes out just cause its a bargain and has room for 4(albit tight)

azca:

I am sorry, performance is great - but this car is super UGLY. I am sure you want to spend $100k and show it to your babe - she will laugh at you. Besides when we get into things that cost so much money, they need to be special, not just good - as a matter of fact they need to be the best. And having a poor's man Ferrari is just humiliating.

And yes, if all you want is power - modded EVO, STi or Legacy GT can have 500-600whp and 500-600wtq for $50k (new car price + mods) with ALL-WHEEL DRIVE and 4 door sedan.

Jason:

The C6 corvettes look nice, I don't see why people think it looks ugly. But they really should do something special for the ZR1. A hood change and paint job doesn't really cut it. Nobody wants to spend $100k on a car that has the same body panels as a $45k car. GM should consider something like the difference between the base Mercedes CLK and the CLK DTM.

IMO, they should have placed the ZO6 package on the Cadi XLR (instead of on the Corvette), and then had the ZR1 model for the Corvette. That way, there wouldn't be 3 models of the Corvette for one generation.

Joe Cortney:

Niz:

"And think about it: in 2008 the standard edition Corvette comes with an the same engine minus the supercharger for $45,285 minus tax title and liscense. Add a $5000 supercharger, new exhaust system (headers, cats, and cat-back) for $2000-$3000, new suspension (you know the after-market will have a better suspension available soon) for maybe $2000 ish, new cam for a few hundred then re-tune the engine, and you will have spent what, $12,000 on parts? Add lets say $8000 in labor (thats a hell of a lot of overkill on labor but lets just assume)."

Nope, wrong. The 08 base engine is an LS3 (I have one). This car uses the ZO6 LS7 engine. Add to that massive ceramic brakes, lots of carbon fiber to lighten the car, different trans and diff and many more tweaks than we even know about yet. You might want to be more sure of your facts before you rant on the car.

Remy LeBeau:

"This car uses the ZO6 LS7 engine."

No, it doesn't. It uses the 6.2 liter LS3. I SHOULD be using the LS7 and putting out like 800-900 hp (and similar amounts of torque)......that might justify the price then.

unknown :

Vetter:
Here we go again ALL U GUYS DO IS TALK TRASH ALL DAY ABOUT CARS U NEVER DRIVEN OR OWNED


I have driven a ferrari f360 and it was great albeit a little twitchy, a 07 z06 was a much more powerfull car but it was a better handling car.

Allen:

To Joe Cortney:

Are you daft? Look up at the top of this damn page: look at any blog or even any releases relating to this car from GM: its using a supercharged LS3.

Also, to Vetter: you don't know any of the guys here, and actually one of them is a female, so how do you know we cannot afford these cars from Europe?

And its a well known fact that European cars have been beating American cars in both the American Leman's series and European Leman's for years. The Corvette Z06 had a few good runs in the 06 Lemans, and some people point out it beat Aston Martin's DB9. Ok, but did it beat Ferrari? Porsche?

No, it did not. And a C5 Corvette can be beaten easily by a Honda S2000: there are plenty of videos on youtube depicting this at drag strips across America.

Honestly, yes, the Corvette is a great bang-for-buck car. But not only does it scream "I wish I had a mullet," other cars in its price range are just oodles nicer to look at and drive. There was once a saying (that some rednecks continue to pump) that the Corvette is the ultimate dream car.

I tell them every time that that saying started as a Marketing Slogan from General Motors. Kids today do not dream of Corvettes, they dream of real cars.

swanee327:

I can’t wait for Top Gear to get a hold of one... I hope they don’t stop the Z06 though... it’s like the best for value... and it would be a nice middle range...

And hopefully the suspension is even better in the new ZR1... not to say the other C6's have a problem but in reviews everyone seems to agree there has been room for improvement... and same with the gearbox...

So... Hope to hear more about the best GM product in the near future :D

Mez:

Yes, on the track these cars are fantastic and will give the euro cars some real competition. Gone are the days where US cars didnt go round corners.

However the price/quality difference comes in actualy using these cars on a daily basis. I found the Z06 very tiresome to drive on a daily basis, the lack of interior quality and less precision engineering/manufacturing in the drivetrain left me feeling a little irritated.

Still, the bang for buck is hard to go past. Spend that on a euro sports car and u likely get 200-250Kw.

Allen:

I think thats the biggest argument in favor of Euro and Japanese sports cars: they are very livable day to day, and are equipped like luxury cars (as they should be, considering the price). Not to many people can afford even the $73,000 for the Z06, and those that can probably either work very hard or have high paying jobs or both to get cars of that price.

Its a little joke we have at work, that those of us driving the $50,000 plus cars of the world are (and say this with as many tears as you can muster) "the working rich."

The people I see driving Corvettes are mainly those who have been saving for years, or those with too much money anyway. I think even at the $73,000 that a Z06 goes for, its way out of range to the average person. Those with salaries that can actually afford that still drive to work everyday, so they are more likely to buy a 3-Series or CTS anyway.

marc:

Speaking of leaf springs, Yugos also have a single leaf spring in the back and they are still being made in Serbia.

unknown :

allen my fiat uno cant beat a enzo at the track with enough money. So just because there is a video of a s2000 beating a c5 doesnt mean a stock s2000 is faster then a stock c5. What your missing is the fact that a s200 weights around 2700 lbs and has a very bad torque band because its a very high rpm motor, the vette weight a bit more around 3k lbs has an extra 170 hp so im farly positive it would stomp a stock s2k as well as being on a track both cars race prepped the vette dominates it without trying. As for lemans check who won last year in the gt1 class surprise its a corvette. As well as also having a jap super car you are sorely mistaken in the fact that they are livable everyday. Very harsh suspensions are what come with jap supercars aside from maybe the nsx sorry cant comment never driven one.

Allen:

So unknown, when I was commenting about Japanese Sports cars, you'd like to tell me that a Lexus IS, the upcoming IS-F, a Nissan R32 Skyline GT-R, the upcoming Nissan GT-R, a Nissan 350z or any of the Japanese and Euro sports sedans have a harsh ride?

Hah, and George W. Bush has been good for the world as a whole!

Sphere:

Corvette are about cheap fast cars. For this money I'd rather buy a used F355 (around 90 grand) or any Ferrari or 911 Turbo I could get my hands on.

And what's the deal with this paint scheme? That's just fugly...

Chaser:

Allen,

I am a proud owner of "America's favorite sportscar" and your tripe about a mullet worsens if not destroys your baseless yet stereotypical claim.

The Corvette is a performance bargain with a legacy that doesn't need Eurotrash (the stupid few like you) bashing it. Like Pro Football we don't need world recognition for approval. It stands on it own and we love it.

I can drive my Corvette from the beautiful NE all the way to the Coast of Southern California while paying $3.00 a gallon of for gas, not a single toll to play and not even have to show a passport.

I love my C6. But please do keep your S2000. I'll meet you on the track anywhere and anytime you like pal.

Remy LeBeau:

"I am a proud owner of "America's favorite sportscar" and your tripe about a mullet worsens if not destroys your baseless yet stereotypical claim."

*sigh* Yet another mindless "AMURICAH IS THUR BESTEST!" person.

"Like Pro Football we don't need world recognition for approval. It stands on it own and we love it."

Ok, I know that the Vette isn't the best car out there, but I didn't know it was a horribly lame as football. I guess you're saying that the Vette is a symbol of brain damage and potential homosexuality? (Well, really.....what's straight about running around grabbing other guy's butt's and then getting naked in the shower with them afterwards?)

"can drive my Corvette from the beautiful NE all the way to the Coast of Southern California while paying $3.00 a gallon of for gas, not a single toll to play and not even have to show a passport."

First, the gas depends on where you are. Second, the toll thing depends on what path you take. You can drive across Europe without paying tolls or showing a passport too. But for you to know that you'd have had to be awake during a social studies / history class....

Oh, before you start going on about "evil Eurotrash" - I'm from Ohio, so I've grown up around brain dead America worshipers who don't care how good a product is - they only care about where it's made.

Kevin:

Travis:

I didn't say ALL $300k-500k, and $1M cars. Cars like the McLaren F1, Veyron, etc...are excluded from that comment. My point was that it can run with and best ALOT of $300K-$500K cars, there's nothing that's going to touch it at $100k It's also very hard to argue that $100k is too much to pay for a ZR1 when people are paying $500k for less.

I love the comments about interior and ride quality. Just shows how much experience you folks have with Porsches and Ferraris. The Vettes do not have a GREAT interior. I don't argue that at all. But they are every bit as good as a Porsche or Ferrari interior, which, if you've driven any model of either marque, you would agree, isn't saying much. Those high end performance cars are built to the same targets as the ZR1...performance over comfort. There's nothing "high quality" or "luxurious" about a Porsche or Ferrari interior. Same plastic, just surrounded by more expensive leather. That doesn't make it better.

RX7-guy:

Check out LGmotorsports.com. They have a very mild cam/exhaust setup putting out 505hp to the wheels. A bigger cam has hit 588hp, with tuning they are expecting to see 600whp. The latter setup will certainly kill low end. That's not the point I was trying to make. The LS3 responds very well to mods.

Paris:

I live in France. But I love Corvettes. By the time I pay all the taxes to own one here I might as well find $500,000. :) Corvettes are exquisite.

Lebeau sorry my friend but with a name like that your probably be the expert on homosexuality. :)

Corvettes are very nice sports cars in their own right and Nicolas Sarkozy loves the U.S.!

Remy LeBeau:

"Lebeau sorry my friend but with a name like that your probably be the expert on homosexuality. :)"

Goggle Remy LeBeau.........then tell me how gay he is.

Some of you guys simply do not know what you are talking about. The corvette uses leaf springs but still has independent rear suspension. It doesn't have a solid rear axle. The leaf springs are transversely mounted (that means they sit side to side) and they span the lower wishbone.

This results in a lighter weight more compact design than a standard coil over damper assembly. The reason many racing corvettes replace the leaf springs with a coil over setup is entirely based on the fact that there are limitless combinations of off the shelf springs and spring rates backed by millions of hours of research when one elects to use a coil spring. The transverse leaf spring configuration is unique to the corvette and therefore much research would have to be done to develop a variety of leaf springs appropriate for a wide array of track configurations and intended uses.

the penske coil over kit for the corvette is only a few thousand dollars so it is a no brainer. spend a bunch of time developing leaf springs or buy an off the shelf component and order various spring rates with the greatest of ease. from a production point of view the leaf springs are a good way to go as they offer a progressively increasing spring rate which results in a relatively soft or compliant ride throughout the first few inches of suspension travel, yet and increasingly stiffer spring as you approach the end of the suspension travel.

due to the implied mounting position of coil springs over a damper (the assembly is tall and therefore the lower portion of the assembly connects to the bottom of the upright while the top of the assembly, in order to clear the wheel, must lean in toward the body) the coil will have a falling spring rate due to leverage. this means that the potential to roll increases, or the resistance to bump or compression decreases as the suspension travels through its range of motion. this is not an ideal design and the transverse leaf spring fixes this quite adequately.

again, it's not like this thing has truck suspension in the rear. so please for the love of god, quit insisting that the corvettes rear suspension is a crappy design because you are simply misinformed. it has a dual wishbone suspension in the rear complete with lightweight aluminum control arms. also, corvette fanboys, please for the love of god quit saying "man this thing is fast for a car with leaf springs" implying that if it had coil springs it would be better. the leaf springs are virtually inconsequential. The suspension motion is identical regardless of the type of springing medium.


read a book!

Carnut57:

Love the bulge of the supercharger under the hood. Looks a little "lingenfelterish" but hey you aren't going to hear me complain about the first car in a LONG time produced by the U.S. to join the ultra competitive ranks of the Carrera and Enzo ranks. The C6 Z06 was outpacing many class competitors on a closed circuit, so while its going to be b@lls out fast it also has the handling to back it up on the twisties. Also I would just like to comment, its about the ONLY true sports car coming out of the Unites States (this car loses weight every new model not adding useless porker pounds like the rest.) AKA Shelby GT500, @ 4,000 lbs. Come on Ford......... why?????

mf:

The Interior is not as bad as it once was, 2008 c6 > 2007 c6. Most people comparing this to euro cars, probably haven't sat in either 1.

I'm not saying its the best, but it is a lot better than it was before. The cars it is being compared with do not have great interiors either.
When taking everything into consideration, this zr1 will be a bargin at its price, just like the z06 and the c6.

If you're going to compare the 911 to a zr1, we might as well start comparing a 325i to a s4.

The only reason you could talk about the zr1 and the 911 in the same sentence is to mention that the zr1 will cost less than the turbo or gt3 but will beat both of them around the track.

If you want to compare a 911 to a vette, you will need to compare it to a z06 and not to a zr1.

mf:

The Interior is not as bad as it once was, 2008 c6 > 2007 c6. Most people comparing this to euro cars, probably haven't sat in either 1.

I'm not saying its the best, but it is a lot better than it was before. The cars it is being compared with do not have great interiors either.
When taking everything into consideration, this zr1 will be a bargin at its price, just like the z06 and the c6.

If you're going to compare the 911 to a zr1, we might as well start comparing a 325i to a s4.

The only reason you could talk about the zr1 and the 911 in the same sentence is to mention that the zr1 will cost less than the turbo or gt3 but will beat both of them around the track.

If you want to compare a 911 to a vette, you will need to compare it to a z06 and not to a zr1.

dark:

maybe you guys forget that turbo cars arent always the best. thats why in the new japanese racing series the supras have 5.4 v8s in them. they have a more usable torque curve than turbo 6 cylinder with similar peak hp. gm put a roots-type supercharger on this thing to compliment is torque curve. this thing will pull harder from low revs (2k-3k) than any turbo car will. there will be no waiting for power to come on. if it weight less than the zo6 and even handles just as good, then you have a car that will be even harder to beat. if they make it handle better (really need to in the back) then you'll have a more accomplished road car that is harder to beat on the track. until any of you race with one, against one or have proven facts, no one can bash this thing.
any 599 lover, just take a look at some of pics of your beloved car and it as much a tribute to the corvette as a none gm car can get (it came out after the vetter got new headlights).

Brian:

The 2009 Chevrolet Corvette "Blue Devil" is under DEVELOPMENT and will be the
most powerful factory Corvette ever, with an estimated 650 horsepower. Pictured
here in conception form based on informed speculation,
the "Blue Devil" is likely to cost $100,000.
The final touches will be better interior and it already handles like a champ. The only car I would take over this 2009 would be a Vernon, which has quad-turbos, 2 V8s, and cost over 1 MIL!!!!!! and gets 7miles to the gal!?!?? where the vette will get in the 20 miles range. The car is going to be and has always been one of the best cars in the world.

greywolf:

Well whoopty do.

Again, the American companies use brute force instead of elegance to produce power. The Germans can produce power plants and refinement that destroy any corvette while only needing 2/3s the displacement (google for: M5). That's why "corvette" will always be synonymous with "fat middle aged guy who doesn't believe he's a fat middle aged guy." No serious driver is into corvettes. If you disagree, you're wrong. Simple.

American cars suck. Union labor makes it impossible to deliver a decent American product at a reasonable price. The sooner American car companies die, the better. Maybe then we can make new car manufacturers without the union angle, and be good again.

ivan:

4 all u import and euro. fans u guys will never beat a real muscle with ur toy cars so fuck all u haters ......... its al about gm fagets ?

Jay Jones:

Yeah, I have a question for whoever is reading this. Is the corvette ZR1 the last corvette they are going to build? Is it going to be the end of the li