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According to Automotive News, Toyota and Subaru are hard at work on plans to co-develop a sports car under the Toyota brand. The new car will be priced under $16,900 and have an engine smaller than 2 liters.
Last week Best Car Plus magazine broke the news that Toyota is working on a new AE86 type car. In that report the magazine stated that the new small RWD car would come to market by winter of 2008. Now it according to newer reports it looks like the car will be released by 2010.
It is not certain if the car will adopt an all-wheel-drive powertrain from Subaru or if it will be rear-wheel drive like the original car. According to Motor Authority Fuji Heavy Industries (Subaru) is going to supply a 2.0L horizontally opposed engine for the car. Final output is expected to be around 120hp and the car should weigh about 1,000kg.
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Comments (6)
Hopefully it is AWD, or else priced well under $16,900. If its going to be a "sports car" you would expect a little more oomph. FWD or not, a Civic has more punch.
Posted by Alexvrb | August 10, 2007 10:08 PM
Posted on August 10, 2007 22:08
I sincerely hope they stick with RWD, I guess if they can make 1000kg with AWD that would be OK, but I really can't ever see that happening. AWD is dead weight in a small low-power sports car.
I believe the 2.0L flat 4 is the 2002-2004 (ish) WRX engine, sans turbo. If they offer a turbo version, 227hp in a ~1000kg car it would be an ABSOLUTE screamer, 0-60 in under 5 sec with good tires (probably, depends on many factors).
Posted by Andy | August 10, 2007 10:25 PM
Posted on August 10, 2007 22:25
Man, i was getting a little too excited when the rumors stated that the new hachi would be around 12k. I think that 17k may be a little too much. But then again, I'm still hoping that my parents buy me one when I go to college :)
I do suspect that TRD might make a turbo/supercharger for this (like they did for the tC)
I cant wait!
Posted by Eddie | August 11, 2007 1:34 AM
Posted on August 11, 2007 01:34
Sounds like a bust, just bring back the celica and supra already. Oh and a better MR2.
Posted by Jonathan | August 11, 2007 5:40 PM
Posted on August 11, 2007 17:40
With 120 hp a car weighing 2204 lbs would be reasonably quick, For the record that would be a full 500 lbs lighter than a Civic, Meaning the Civic would be about 23% heavier, which means the Toyota would have the equivalent of roughly 148 hp in a Civic, The Civic produces fairly weak torque so if the Toyota had better Torque output which based on the engine type I would expect around 135 ft lbs, and the specs of the NA late 90's Subies, Then the new AE86 could easily be noticeably faster than the Civic, Not world beating but a few tenths to maybe at absolute most half a second on 0~60 I could see easily. For the Record the Civic manual non Si hits 60 in just under 8 seconds, and runs a 1/4 in about 16 @ around 87 mph.
With the light weight it would get very impressive mileage, which would be a bonus. And with say a 7.5 second 0~60 it could be reasonably sporty, sort of like a base MX-5, though for $16,900 I think they should be targeting more like 150 hp, which would make a genuinely sporty car.
Posted by Travis | August 13, 2007 5:39 AM
Posted on August 13, 2007 05:39
the 86 is one car on its own i own 2 of them great fun good look but this new car will it still have a good blance weight over the frount and rear???
the 86 was the last rwd car of its time trueno / levin how cares just leave the car rwd good motor maybe turbo??? supercharger??? who knows
but power to weight kicks ass if this is the next drifter well lets see how it goses
Posted by justin | October 17, 2008 1:09 AM
Posted on October 17, 2008 01:09