Thank god for Honda.
Maybe they will lead us away from the stupid E85 debacle, but it won't convince the Earnhart Jr. hat wearing morons.

I for one welcome our new v6 diesel honda overlords...

wait, that doesnt work in this context...

what about a civic? vw makes most of there models diesel, like that gti(bleh) but what about honda's most selling cars? id trade in my 99 dx for a 10 diesel model.

just dont make it a hybrid, i dont want anything to do with that nickel hydrate crap. i might as well just burn a hole in my yard right now if they do...

Thank them for what? Saying they are going to release a motor 3 years from now that is already sold elsewhere? Are you going to swallow that honda load you just sucked off?

Get in your avalanche and ride.

I'd rather have and drive an avalanche than a ridgeline anyday.

Here we go with the hillbilly/redneck/hick talk again. Why don't you grab your avalance, and go haul a trailer full of shit back & forth! It's arrogant assholes like you that make the rest of us look bad!

I have never seen anyone put E85 in their car. Dale Earnhart Jr. fans are actually fairly likely to drive large diesel trucks, like a F350 dualie and pretty close to zero of them are big E85 supporters, or even know what it is.

I am an Earnhart Jr. fan and drive a diesel as well as know what E85 is. I am no "redneck".

The only thing Honda has done is realize the potential for diesel sales and is trying to capitalize on it like any good manufacturer should. To bad they are a little late to the game though. Mercedes\VW\Audi has their new diesel coming next year as well as those that are already being offered by current manufacturers.

E85, hydrogen, hybrids, and diesel will all be partial solutions to reducing dependance on foreign oil. Diesel can't do it alone, because:
1) A barrel of oil cannot be refined entirely into diesel
2) As was shown in the late 70s when diesel cars proliferated, the price of diesel goes up as well. This results in higher inflation for core products like groceries, because the truckers are using diesel, too.
I'm not sure why every forum on this website has to degenerate into insults. Take your bad language elsewhere, please.

I wonder if Honda diesel engines will work with biodiesel... Then it could work as a solution to foreign oil imports.

Will these diesels we the kind that last 100's of thousands of miles or the like crap GM produced (converted gas engines) in cars in the early 80's?

Diesel cost just as much as super unleaded up here. I;m sure you'll get a bit more mileage out of it. But is it worth the extra smell of having these types of vehicles on the raod. It's bad enough getting behind a diesel vehicle as it is now. Now if it smelled like french fries and donuts, I'm sure that would be a plus. (LOL).
If we really wanted to get rid of foriegn oil consumption, we'd drive single seat, light weight vehicles, with a computer controlled acelleration that kept your foot from drinking it all in. (Really nice go-carts) Shoot, most of us use these vehicles for going to and from work any how. Have the grocery getter sit at home till you need it.

"Diesel cost just as much as super unleaded up here. I;m sure you'll get a bit more mileage out of it."

Exactly, this is the case in California. Would it be worth it? As a motorcycle rider, I hate diesel spills, which make the road super slippery, so I would not support diesels of any kind anyway.

Check: http://www.killspills.org.uk/

But I'm curious to know if the cost/performance trade off is acceptable. For instance, nobody seems to care the impact of a heavier engine in the car handling caractheristics. And I have yet to see an affordable all alluminum Diesel engine.

Durumax guy
To bad they are a little late to the game though. Mercedes\VW\Audi has their new diesel coming next year as well as those that are already being offered by current manufacturers.

Sure, but he who wants diesel effeciency wants it in an affordable, reliable package that has quality throughout. The last time time I looked Mercedes and Audi are not cheap, and VW is one of the least reliable brands out there in the sub-30k market.

And to everyone bitching about diesels not coming out until 2010 and they smell, research. The reason mainstream diesel is not coming out until 2010 in the US is because our government (oil companies) insists it has to be low sulfur diesel, which also eliminates the stench.

I have a 2000 Odyssey and my inlaws have a 2007 Odyssey. These vans do everything well. My van averages 22-25mpg and have achieved up to 28mpg on hwy. My inlaws van does about the same (and have 40+ more hp to boot). Honda has always made vehicles that are supremely reliable, enjoyable to drive, and confortable. If Honda adds diesels to the larger models. I will be first in line. Diesels have always been more efficient , but I believe that the US will finally have a good selection of quality diesel applications. ( it used to be oonly VW/MB offering diesels). This technology is readily available and can be easily converted to biodiesel.

This engine is state of the art using some type of thermbond and they currently use a sliently modified one for plane engines. This is going to be a great engine. Now if they only made a car for somebody 6'2" and not just 5'5".

I'm trying to figure out what's worse.

1) Making redneck comments to prove a point about diesel
2) Making elitist comments to prove a point about redneck-calling
3) Gloating over a 4300 pound minivan getting 30-32mpg on the highway

If they really wanted to make this 'van get better mileage, they'd put it on the Civic diet.

Honda's diesel engines are Aluminum blocks.

Honda diesel should work with Bio-Diesel or Grease. Can't wait to convert one!

I have converted both of my VW TDI and Ford F250 to run on WVO (Waste Vegetable Oil). The VW has been running on Grease since 2004, I was getting 53 mpg on the original 90 Hp (155 ft-#) motor. Now, it has been modified up to 128 Hp (227 ft-#) to the wheel and still getting 40+ mpg.
I'm about to convert my Suzuki Samurai (4X4) with a VW TDI motor in few years to sip Grease.
And the Odyssey Diesel is just the ticket for my wife. We used to have a 2003 Odyssey, and we loved it; reason being we had too many cars, My wife still have her 2003 Camry. I also had the 2002 S2000 at the time. Kind of missed that car on the track. Might look into the new BMW 135 as an alternate for fun.

Honda's diesel engines are Aluminum blocks.

Honda diesel should work with Bio-Diesel or Grease. Can't wait to convert one!

Honda does have Civic in Diesel, now are running in Uk and other countries. Soon, they will have a more performanced Diesel Civic (Type-R), around 180 Hp.

I have converted both of my VW TDI and Ford F250 to run on WVO (Waste Vegetable Oil). The VW has been running on Grease since 2004, I was getting 53 mpg on the original 90 Hp (155 ft-#) motor. Now, it has been modified up to 128 Hp (227 ft-#) to the wheel and still getting 40+ mpg.
I'm about to convert my Suzuki Samurai (4X4) with a VW TDI motor in few years to sip Grease.
And the Odyssey Diesel is just the ticket for my wife. We used to have a 2003 Odyssey, and we loved it; reason being we had too many cars, My wife still have her 2003 Camry. I also had the 2002 S2000 at the time. Kind of missed that car on the track. Might look into the new BMW 135 as an alternate for fun.

There is little doubt that diesel and/or diesel hybrids WILL be the norm of tomorrow...

The E85 stuff is nonsense at best or just another way to jack up food prices,etc...

Funny, the E85ers actually believe a fuel that uses up food and raises food prices while getting 25% LESS efficiently is somehow..."green"...

So be it, the smoke n mirrors of Madison Ave never fails to surprise me.

EXPECT small econ-boxes fitted with diesel and/or diesel hybrids to get WELL over 50mpg, some will get OVER 100mpg! ...

On the other hand, expect ALL fuel prices to DOUBLE within a decade...

The writing is on the wall folks, BIG OIL owns the bank and their powerful lobbyists are in the pocket of EVERY politician on the planet...

How many MPG a diesel unit gets is not the real story. The driving characteristics are far superior to gasoline units and that is the payoff. European trips in rented diesel autos sold me.