BMW Releases Official Specs on the New BMW 135i Coupe...306HP and 0-62 MPH in 5.3 Seconds!

So, apparantly it will be fast. Well speed makes up for looks any day. I mean, you can't rub looks in the face of the guy next to you at the stoplight, can you.

It's better than the rest of the 1-series at least...

5.3? I doubt it. BMW normally severely understates what it's cars can do. Given what the 335i can do, this thing should be able to hit 60 in 4.5 - 4.8 seconds.

5.3 seconds 0-60. Wow. It can keep up with heavy sport sedans like the Charger now. And for a higher price no less.

300hp out of a twin turbocharged inline-6 is pathetic. Other car companies have that kind of power from a V6 without even a single turbo. Acura has a 290hp V6.

Those are factory ratings. I would be happy to put down money that this car would beat a Charger in both 0-60 and quarter mile. The Acura has no pitiful torque numbers compared to this engine.

Man the diesel version would make a fun commuter car.
I kinda like it, but it is hard to believe this won't cut into the 3 series sales, not that I care.

"300hp out of a twin turbocharged inline-6 is pathetic. Other car companies have that kind of power from a V6 without even a single turbo. Acura has a 290hp V6."

It's not horsepower that makes this engine impressive - it's the torque. 300 lb/ft at 1,800 rpms. Yea, Acura has a 290 hp V6, but it's .5 liters larger AND has 44 lb/ft less torque (and it also hits max torque 3,200 rpm later). Also, the reason they used twin turbos was just to eliminate turbo lag, not to get more power.

I agree that this thing will be faster than 5.3 to 60. Have there been any estimates on the weight? I'd love a 4-door, especially if they had a 135xi.

Actually this report is from the UK where they test 0-100km/h or 62.5 MPH. So it will definately be faster than 5.3 sec.

BMW is notorious for underrating its cars. it will probobly do 0-60 in 5 seconds flat but certainly not sub 5 it just doesnt have the torque. And on the note of power vs. the Acura. The BMW's acceleration is as smooth as a warm knife through butter. While the Acura's power comes in much later then the BMW's. It's a fantastic engine.

Remy's right, its the torque that matters and it is going to be faster than 5.3 a 4 door 135 would look exactly like a 3 series, i dont think that's going to happen. This car reminds me of the old e30.

I love it.

I'm sure you are all right that it will be faster than that.

This is yet another BMW that will qualify in my books as a REAL BMW. See, they've been selling 7s and 5s and even 6s in this country for years as "The Ultimate Driving Machine". The problem is, that "ultimately" all you need for a great driving machine is 2 seats, 2 doors and the smallest shell you can wrap around them.

So, my list of real BMWs available in USA today (and in the 135's future are:

Z4
2 door (non-hardtop convertible) 3 series
1 series (I assume there is no sedan coming)

That's about it.

All the rest are "4-door interpretation of the mechanicals of the 2-door versions of The Ultimate Driving Machine" or "Way-too heavy hardtop convertible interpretation..." or "Large, extended wheelbase, 4-door cousin to...". You get the idea.

Main Entry: ul·ti·mate
Function: adjective
1 d : the best or most extreme of its kind : UTMOST

(ripped from m-w.com)

I wonder how much something like this will cost, espsecially due to the price premium usually associated with owning a bmw with the largest engine. May just be too much money for not enough car. The prestige of owning a BMW is mostly wiped away with the 1 serious, they'll market it as an entry level econcomy beamer, but with a high price tag and rather thirsty engine it may not bring a lot of new buys to the dealerships or steal from 3 series purchases.

Where's the link to the official specs? it just talk about he 3-ers.

I'll stick to V8s cars that cost the same or less and don't need turbos to get 300 lb ft of torque.

My brother has a twin turbo Supra. Sure its fun to drive (well at least until he put a race clutch in it), but my dads TA and my old Camaro were far more fun. And I prefer parts to not cost an insane amount of money like they do with a BMW. I like cars to be cheap to buy, fun to drive, and cheap to repair when necessary.

I'd love to see the gas mileage of this thing. I know my brothers Supra gets 21mpg on the highway. My old 89 Camaro with a 430 hp carbed V8, 4.11 gears, and a 6-speed got that. I don't see the mileage on this thing being that great either.

And an inline six really doesn't have to worry as much about turbo-lag. An inline-6 already makes great torque at low rpm.

Prices?

Two Turbos it means more torque at any rpm since you turn on the car and for the mileage i bet any money no V8 have better mileage unless is hybrid.

"it will probobly do 0-60 in 5 seconds flat but certainly not sub 5 it just doesnt have the torque."

Except that the 335i with the same engine can do it in 4.8 (possibly a touch less) and the 135i will weigh a few hundred pounds less. From weight estimates on the 135i and what the 335i has shown it can do, the best estimate for the 135i right now it 0-60 in 4.5 seconds.

"it will probobly do 0-60 in 5 seconds flat but certainly not sub 5 it just doesnt have the torque."

Except that the 335i with the same engine can do it in 4.8 (possibly a touch less) and the 135i will weigh a few hundred pounds less. From weight estimates on the 135i and what the 335i has shown it can do, the best estimate for the 135i right now is 0-60 in 4.5 seconds.

Kinda looks like a 3 series rammed a z4 from behind...

These specs are for the UK version of the car, right? No telling how much of that will change for the U.S. version. Anyone have a reference between the UK and US 335 versions?

I doubt that ~most~ people buying a bmw are ~that~ worried about the mileage.

I would definitely have to see the curb weight for this car. Is it substantially lower than a 3-series coupe? If not, is it worth it?

Would they eventually offer their x-drive awd system?

And yes, what of the pricing? Would a $35,000 (U.S.) 135 be worth it, vs a 335? I just priced a bare-bones 335 (US) right at $40k before taxes, etc.

(now i wonder if a club sport version is in the pipeline??)

In regards to quote below: What a freakin' behind the times, lacking of scienctific knowledge Mullet head. 5.3 seonds? That's whta BMW wink-wink says to the public. Pigmy's in Africa know the times are ultra conservative already.

Onto the quote: No, wrong, it takes 400HP like the 05' Pontiac GTO to get to 5.3 seconds, and Dodge's 340HP, etc. etc. to get to near or the same as the "little" 300hp 335i.

What a nit-wit. The new electric sports cars have 120hp and blow the doors off of every Ferrari made. Go back to school and pay attention this time. The 335i has an established 0-60 of 4.7 and 4.8 sec on a "measily" 300hp while getting 21mpg, which is what I get.
For $1,300 you can get the Vishnu Proceed and drop another 80 rear wheel hp into the low 4 second bracket....

"David Pechacek:
5.3 seconds 0-60. Wow. It can keep up with heavy sport sedans like the Charger now. And for a higher price no less.

300hp out of a twin turbocharged inline-6 is pathetic. Other car companies have that kind of power from a V6 without even a single turbo. Acura has a 290hp V6. "

Hey Mr. Pechacek? What a dumb ass! What do you think, BMW added the turbos because they couldn't figure out how to squeeze 300hp from a 6? There is an incredible amount of engineering reasoning into the motor design. Read this: www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=38856

The engineering in the Jap cars isn't even close, which is why they consistently get their asses kicked decade after decade. The Jap cars are simple minded, flimsy and embarrassing. That is why the have no status in the luxury car world. They’ve always been seen as a joke. You will never see a Lexus, Acura or an Infinity at the Ritz in Beverly Hills will you?

The 3 Series has been stomping it's classmates for 15 years and running.

The turbos are going into Ford's new cars, and all other manufacturers are following suit. It's not a black-and-white issue.

You better speak to Porsche about their lack of engineering knowledge. They use 6's in everything, as well as turbos.

The 335i has been hailed as the best car one can buy for an all around vehicle. It’s about linear power, throttle response, mpg and POWERBAND. One can beat a more powerful car with a superior powerband and SUPERIOR weight distribution.

This is why the M3, which is usually outclassed in the HP department, still beats it’s competition. There is a LOT more to things than HP numbers on a piece of paper.

The engineering in the Jap cars isn't even close, which is why they consistently get their asses kicked decade after decade. The Jap cars are simple minded, flimsy and embarrassing.

Um right need i say just 2 words to shut you up. EVO STI
A wrx or legacy or evo with decent mods is a better performing and more cost effective alternative to the B M Trouble You.

I've test driven the 335 and altho the exterior is impressive and so is the exhaust note, the power is lacking (sure the vishnu pkg could up that) and that interior is beyond cheap. 45K ++ for that interior...i dont think so.

Most importantly the I-6TT engine already has issues considering its the first year but this car will be a good purchase once they iron out the bugs.

I am happy about the 1 series as long as they can keep the price below 30K with nice options. Above that and I'd be inclined to go for the Evo or the Wrx. Better reliability from both the others.

Why are you silly rednecks comparing a BMW to Cameros, Stis, Evos, Supras and god damn Acuras? This isn't some shit heap econobox that they threw a big ass engine into. It is a luxury sports car with rear-wheel drive, a reasonably powerful motor, magnificent brakes, 50/50 weight distribution. Oh, and a build, interior and finish quality no where on the same plane as the above mentioned ricer toys. No one is going to race you at a traffic light in this thing because you rev your shit can at them.

So wear your mullets and impress your highschool girls, but please refrain from comparing something you have no appreciation for.

Personally I don't see the need for all the name calling etc. I like all cars in general, each has it's place in the world. No two people are going to see things the same way. I personally am excited about the 135i. I have always wanted a BMW, but could never justify the money, now I see one that has all the BMW goodness, for an affordable price. You can always build a faster and improved car, with the aftermarket, anything is possible these days,but to get a car that can do what this car is reported to be able to do, for $33,000-$35,000, is exciting. I have owned over 350 cars in my life, I have had muscle cars, 4wd's, and luxury sedans, and all have been good performers. It just depends on what you are looking for, that is why so many models and makes are made, no two peoples needs are the same. That is what makes this country so great, it enables us the right to choose and say what we feel and like. This car may not be for everyone, but for some it may be just the car they have always wanted. Comparsions are only natural, but when it all comes down to it, the only thing that matters is if you like it, it fits your needs, and you can afford it, it really doesn't matter if someone else likes it, or he has a faster car, because there will always be someone faster, I know from experience. So for those that are excited about this car, good luck , I hope you get one. For those that don't particularly care for it, I hope you find a car that does fit your needs and persoanality. Good Luck to all !!!!!!

People also forget to realize that they have put 335i's on a dyno and have come up with consistant wheel horsepower ratings of 280-290 hp. The hp output is closer to 330+ at least. I

People also forget to realize that they have put 335i's on a dyno and have come up with consistant wheel horsepower ratings of 280-290 hp. This would lead us to believe that the power output of the engine is probably more in the 330 hp range.

People also forget to realize that they have put 335i's on a dyno and have come up with consistant wheel horsepower ratings of 280-290 hp. This would lead us to believe that the power output of the engine is probably more in the 330 hp range.

I have my 335i chipped and I've taken it to the track. It will do 0-60 in less than 4 seconds flat. I have the JB2. Not the Vishnu. You can spend 400 and get just as much HP from the JB2 as the Vishnu which costs almost 2k. If you don't believe me, I'll take you to the track any day. BTW, I SMOKED a 400 HP GTO like nothing the other day. Homeboy was PISSED. POS American Cars.

I have my 335i chipped and I've taken it to the track. It will do 0-60 in less than 4 seconds flat. I have the JB2. Not the Vishnu. You can spend 400 and get just as much HP from the JB2 as the Vishnu which costs almost 2k. If you don't believe me, I'll take you to the track any day. BTW, I SMOKED a 400 HP GTO like nothing the other day. Homeboy was PISSED. POS American Cars.

I have my 335i chipped and I've taken it to the track. It will do 0-60 in less than 4 seconds flat. I have the JB2. Not the Vishnu. You can spend 400 and get just as much HP from the JB2 as the Vishnu which costs almost 2k. If you don't believe me, I'll take you to the track any day. BTW, I SMOKED a 400 HP GTO like nothing the other day. Homeboy was PISSED. POS American Cars.

"300hp out of a twin turbocharged inline-6 is pathetic. Other car companies have that kind of power from a V6 without even a single turbo. Acura has a 290hp V6."

There are so many things wrong with this statement. Because there are so many variations to boost/compression, turbo size, engine life engine size, etc etc. You could easily play with engines like this to get 500 HP and more torque (or more) but it all depends.

"300hp out of a twin turbocharged inline-6 is pathetic. Other car companies have that kind of power from a V6 without even a single turbo. Acura has a 290hp V6."

There are so many things wrong with this statement. Because there are so many variations to boost/compression, turbo size, engine life, etc etc. You could easily play with engines like this to get 500 HP and more torque (or more) but it all depends.

"300hp out of a twin turbocharged inline-6 is pathetic. Other car companies have that kind of power from a V6 without even a single turbo. Acura has a 290hp V6."

There are so many things wrong with this statement. Because there are so many variations to boost/compression, turbo size, engine life, engine size, etc etc. You could easily play with engines like this to get 500 HP and more torque (or more) but it all depends.

This car is going to be one of the best ever.