In 2010 will chevys still fall apart ?
Some things never change !

I often wonder when this import propaganda will end.

Don't get me wrong, I *KNOW* the domestic vehicles *WERE* bad, but their quality has/had to improve to keep them competitive with the Japanese.

I've owned 2 Toyotas in my life.

My Tercel was a fantastic little car.

My Corolla on the other hand was a piece of junk. I had continuous problems with it.

I maintain my vehicles, use the dealerships for service, etc... but that didn't prevent the Toyota made timing belt from snapping (it had 40,000km on it), and taking half of my engine with it in the process.

I sold my Corolla and bought a Chevy Colorado for myself, and then later purchased a Chevy Aveo for my fiance.

They're 2 years old now... and aside from one recall each (it never bothers me when a company voluntarily does this, I mean, if Toyota had fessed up to the exhaust manifold issue on all 94 - 97 Corolla's I wouldn't have spent $1000 in exhaust manifolds - but I digress), they have been flawless.

I'd buy a GM product again as my experience from the sales, to service to product quality has exceeded my expectations.

Toyota should be careful. They're putting a lot of eggs into one basket with their hybrid vehicles.

You, like most other people, only look at it on the 'my car was good/bad level'. You know what, I know several people who have had problems with Hondas and Toyotas... But I know 10x as many people with problematic domestics... The REAL story about the quality is quite simply in the numbers. Yes, domestics are improving - but on the same hand so are imports. But when you look at the real numbers (Consumer Reports, JD Power, Motor Trend), the numbers as of 2007 are still saying domestics are far behind.

It took GM 15 years to fully realize they were in trouble. Don't think that all-of-the-sudden after 2 or 3 years they're all fixed. They're not. For example, almost every major publication (like the ones listed above), rate the '06/07 cobalt as 'one of the most unreliable cars for 2007'. The real numbers dont lie.

I look forward to seeing GM's hybrid. It's about time. They could easily have lead the new technology cars but as usual railed against them. Having to be dragged kicking and screaming into the future. Personally I believe thier managment is willfully trying to destroy the company.
If they build quality vehicles of the right type people will buy them. Unless the design is good it doesn't matter who builds them.

Prius (hybrids) do some pretty nasty environmental damage of their own, and the manufacture chain is incredibly inefficient. I'm no fan of giant gas sucking SUVs, but this article brings up good points. The chemicals used in the batteries are toxic and refining them moreso.

http://clubs.ccsu.edu/recorder/editorial/editorial_item.asp?NewsID=188

Finally an interesting car from Detroit!
There still needs to be way more progress.

anybody else notice how it looks like this thing was excreted from someones anus? (it's very ugly)

I think the key term is that it "could take on"
Knowing GM, it will be canceled just like the hybrid Silverado. bunch of loosers.
bring back an improved EV1!!!

ObviouslyMisinformedDept,

This "import propaganda" will end when it is no longer the truth.

"Don't get me wrong, I *KNOW* the domestic vehicles *WERE* bad, but their quality has/had to improve to keep them competitive with the Japanese."

That's just it, they're NOT competitive. The only reason the Big 3 (shrinking 3 lol) are still here is because of their truck divisions. Hence the BILLIONS of dollars they've lost in just the last year as gas prices and superior products from Toyota and Nissan have appeared.

Even now, look at the commercials and paper ads. They're all aimed at trying to sell trucks and SUV's, because they know their cars aren't competitive.

Except for the few car commercials where they play urban/rap music and show African-Americans; trying to draw in the people with the income/credit statistic that would purchase such a vehicle. No different than the current crop of McDonalds commercials.

"I'd buy a GM product again as my experience from the sales, to service to product quality has exceeded my expectations."

Did you even go sit in a new import, feel the materials and tight gaps that show some real quality?

Just wait until you decide to sell them and realize that there is no resale value, then you'll see what a bad investment they are, kind of like the junk bond status that the automakers stock is at.

The rebates and low prices got you, eh?

Ha, what a joke. GM's answer to the Prius.... in 2010 no less (and in low quantities) Ummm, someone please tell me how long has the Prius been on the market ? Does GM expect the Prius not to improve over the years and gain even more market share.
It is this pathetic kind of thinking that has put them behind foreign automakers.

See, it doesn't matter to me what you think. I am rooting for the home team. In fact randall, i think your thinking is a joke. Why don't you get behind the people of your birthright, instead of being an ass? (that is if you truly are an american)....

AMERICAN CARS SUCK... PURE AND SIMPLE. THATS WHY WE VALUE IMPORTED CARS SO MUCH MORE.

I choose to buy a car that is more reliable, safer, and where I get more car for every dollar I spend. Cars built here by Americans. I just bought a Hyundai, built in Alabama.

but yes, Toyota also is opening more plants and hiring more Americans here while GM and Ford is still cutting cost.

Shure imports are better! Just try adding alittle more H.P by boostin up your engine and see what happens to the transmission. Or better yet try driving over a few deep pot holes and see which suspension can take it better, the beefier GM suspension or the toy like ones made by toy-ota or the like.
Also I talk from experience i've had both american and imports the american made cars have always outlasted my imports. right now I have 2006 honda civic, 6 month old. Sure its tiny engine is great on gas but within 5 months the rear window started squeeking and rattling noises are commig from behind the dashoard. It seems nuts and bolts will soon fall out. My 2002, 55,000 mile chevy Tahoe and 125,000 ,2001 pontiac grand prix are both running as smooth and as quietly as when they were new.
(Note:) I believe all makes have their lemons. There are just as many civic lemons as there are American lemons. Just do your home work before you buy a vehicle. I always willing to try new cars wether Domestic, import ,chevy or ford.
But if i am forced to choose a manufacturer, an american one will prevail. besides how many classic jap cars have you seen.huum? Be a little patriotic, have alittle faith, buy american and if not for you for our childrens future. Even Elvis drove a chevy!

Shure imports are better! Just try adding alittle more H.P by boostin up your engine and see what happens to the transmission. Or better yet try driving over a few deep pot holes and see which suspension can take it better, the beefier GM suspension or the toy like ones made by toy-ota or the like.
Also I talk from experience i've had both american and imports the american made cars have always outlasted my imports. right now I have 2006 honda civic, 6 month old. Sure its tiny engine is great on gas but within 5 months the rear window started squeeking and rattling noises are commig from behind the dashoard. It seems nuts and bolts will soon fall out. My 2002, 55,000 mile chevy Tahoe and 125,000 ,2001 pontiac grand prix are both running as smooth and as quietly as when they were new.
(Note:) I believe all makes have their lemons. There are just as many civic lemons as there are American lemons. Just do your home work before you buy a vehicle. I always willing to try new cars wether Domestic, import ,chevy or ford.
But if i am forced to choose a manufacturer, an american one will prevail. besides how many classic jap cars have you seen.huum? Be a little patriotic, have alittle faith, buy american and if not for you for our childrens future. Even Elvis drove a chevy!

Ever look under a foreign car, try driving over a few deep pot holes and see which suspension can take it better, the beefier american suspension or the toy like ones made by toy-ota or the like. More and more japanese and koreans are driving american cars as a status symbol. I should know I married into an oriental family. I've always had cars from both ends of the world. My american made cars have always outlasted my imports. right now I have a 2006 honda civic,only 6 month old. Sure its tiny engine is great on gas but within 5 months the rear window started squeeking and a rattling noise is coming from behind the dashoard.On the other hand my 2002, 55,000 mile chevy Tahoe and 125,000 ,2001 pontiac grand prix are both running as smooth and as quietly as when they were new.
(Note:) I believe all makes have their lemons. Just do your home work before you buy a vehicle. And of coarse an american car doesn't mean it was made in the USA but at least in was designed here. I am always willing to try new cars wether Domestic, import ,chevy or ford.
But if I am forced to choose a manufacturer, an american one will prevail. Besides how many classic jap cars have you seen.huum? Be a little patriotic, have alittle faith, buy american and if not for you for the big 3's future which provides for millions all over the world. "Even Elvis drove a chevy!"

If imports are superior, why is Buick now tied with Lexus as the most reliable brands? Try looking deeper into why imports are doing well in America. A weak yen, lack of availablity in Korea and Japan for US car makers to compete and a perceived perception of better quality. Honda, Take a real look at what it costs America when you purchase a foreign car.

Couple more bushes and most of us will be riding made in china bicycles - very clean and all that greenback we'll be able to afford.

The dolt is going to be priced in the 30k range, over a toyota prius, and it only has a 40 mile range. What a joke. the big three just are to obtuse to get it.
They have fought to sell the people of this country what the car industry wants to sell instead of what the people want to buy.

The dolt is going to be priced in the 30k range, over a toyota prius, and it only has a 40 mile range. What a joke. the big three just are to obtuse to get it.
They have fought to sell the people of this country what the car industry wants to sell instead of what the people want to buy.

The dolt is going to be priced in the 30k range, over a toyota prius, and it only has a 40 mile range. What a joke. the big three just are to obtuse to get it.
They have fought to sell the people of this country what the car industry wants to sell instead of what the people want to buy.