Apparently the GTI is too important to Volkswagen of America and they are not willing to cannibalize sales of the hatchback by bringing the Scirocco hatchback here. The original Scirocco was very popular in the U.S.
According to Adrian Hallmark, executive vice president of Volkswagen of America, "It is economically suicidal for us to risk the sales volume and the potential of the GTI."
The Scirocco will have the same engine and chassis as the GTI when it is released.
Since the market for hatchbacks is very small in the United States, having multiple hatchbacks and coupes in their U.S. lineup would not be beneficial.
Sucks that they tempted us with the Iroc Concept and now they are deciding to neglect the U.S. market. It seems like we never get any of the cool cars. Arg!
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Yeah, it is weak that they won't bring this to the states, but it's not like we don't have cool cars. The new Altima coupe is pretty cool (not to mention the G35 coupe). Both of which are admittedly bigger, but beefier cars than the little VW's.
Posted by u235 | April 23, 2007 1:49 PM
Posted on April 23, 2007 13:49
american cars suck big time.
best are toyotas.... they work without issues and german cars are second.
american car makers have lost the race. nobody outside america will buy their crap.
Posted by jason | April 23, 2007 2:54 PM
Posted on April 23, 2007 14:54
I had a 1977 Scirocco, it was a sweet little car. I didn't like there fuel injection though. Loved the hatchback, you could get a lot of stuff in it. Well engineered with a light rigid frame and good economy to boot.
Posted by Biil Owens | April 23, 2007 3:14 PM
Posted on April 23, 2007 15:14
Thats funny, in the past few years VW has consistently produced vehicles with the worst reliability. Three out of the top five most problem riddled vehicles are of this superior German engineering.
Last week a report listed Ford, thats right Ford as having the same amount of problems as Toyota and Nissan. Somewhere around 1500 problems per 1000 vehicles.
Just figured I'd let you know some facts to go with you're bs sandwich
Posted by Owen Yu | April 23, 2007 4:08 PM
Posted on April 23, 2007 16:08
Thats funny, in the past few years VW has consistently produced vehicles with the worst reliability. Three out of the top five most problem riddled vehicles are of this superior German engineering.
Last week a report listed Ford, thats right Ford as having the same amount of problems as Toyota and Nissan. Somewhere around 1500 problems per 1000 vehicles.
Just figured I'd let you know some facts to go with your bs sandwich
Posted by Owen Yu | April 23, 2007 4:08 PM
Posted on April 23, 2007 16:08
"Thats funny, in the past few years VW has consistently produced vehicles with the worst reliability."
I'de have to agree with that. Thats why I wouldn't buy a Jokeswagon.
And for the reliability of american cars. They already blew their rep a long time ago. Even though they are more reliable now, they still have the negative stereotype, which ownz their resale value.
Posted by Jason Harrison | April 23, 2007 4:50 PM
Posted on April 23, 2007 16:50
I live in Austria (near Germany) and I would buy almost everything except cars from Amerika.
The are way too inefficeint and why do most of them have ot be that big and thursty? I would like to come from A->B, not compensate any small body parts with ma large V8 engine.
Posted by Hippy | April 23, 2007 5:08 PM
Posted on April 23, 2007 17:08
The US doesn't get any of the cool cars? Are you crazy?!
We have the Hummer H2, H3, the Escalade, the Expedition, Excursion, Explorer. Let's see, what other totally pimped out cars do we have?
I'm fairly certain someone could release a full military issue Abrams tank and it would soar to #1.
Posted by Captain Jack Sparrow | April 23, 2007 5:20 PM
Posted on April 23, 2007 17:20
I know the reliability is a bit sketchy, but every car I own or have owned is a VW.
My 1983 Rabbit was my first car, given to me. The thing is a joy to work on, you can replace everything but the crank with the engine in the car, all four spark plugs is a 10-minute job.
The fuel-injection system is great (FYI the first few years of smog laws the VW's didn't need catalytic converters), Bosch had been fuel injecting engines for about 40+ years by that point, they still make a lot of the FI parts on all makes but the Asian cars.
I am sorely disappointed that the new 'Rocco won't be coming here, I drooled over the concept car a lot when it came up, the 1.4L twin-charger engine especially.
I guess my solace is the fact that the sub-$15,000 Rabbits are selling well and I can have one of those second-hand in a few years, the 5-cylinder engine should pack a punch with a hot cam and an exhaust system (Audi has been making 5-cylinders for a long time, just can't beat an Audi dressed in a cheap body for half the price ;)
Posted by Miles | April 23, 2007 5:33 PM
Posted on April 23, 2007 17:33
I would personally never buy a VW.
Sure, their initial quality seems higher than most in their class thanks to Audi, but they're just not designed/built to last as well as the Asian cars. Their resale isn't too pretty either (especially the $40-80k Phateon? is it).
"jason:
american cars suck big time.
best are toyotas.... they work without issues and german cars are second."
Yes, American vehicles are crap compared to the Japanese. Any average American (lower middle-->middle class) with any financial IQ will buy a Honda/Acura or Toyota/Lexus. Quality, image, and resale are unbeatable by any other car in their class wether it's a Honda Civic or a Lexus LS460. Save thousands more by purchasing a prestine pre-owned model with 10-20k on the odometer.
Posted by Noya | April 23, 2007 7:07 PM
Posted on April 23, 2007 19:07
Owen, that report was about the quality of the cars coming straight out of manufacturing. That has practically nothing to do with the long term quality that both Asian and German cars offer. Read entire stories instead of just the headlines.
I love VW cars - I have a '96 Jetta that has had absolutely no problems. I hope they decide to bring this to the US/Canada - that's a sweet lookin' ride
Posted by MacLean | May 3, 2007 1:34 PM
Posted on May 3, 2007 13:34
I have a '97 Escort that I've been driving 870 miles per week for 2 years now. Best little car I've owned, and will get out of its own way better than my '98 Mitsubishi death trap AND gets the same fuel economy on 0.5 more liters of engine...
Biggest problem I've had with the Escort was installing Bosch spark plugs. Motorcraft work much nicer.
Hasn't VW had a really bad sludging problem in the last few years? Did they ever resolve that?
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Posted on May 3, 2007 15:12
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Posted by credit report | June 9, 2007 8:45 PM
Posted on June 9, 2007 20:45
"best are toyotas.... they work without issues"
Yes...but they have all the personality - that is, driving and ownership enjoyment resulting from that - of a plastic soap dish.
No thanks.
There is something "special" about driving a German-engineered car. You might not know it because you haven't tried. The German cars feel much more planted on the road at high speeds, much greater feedback on the controls at those speeds and much more *relaxed*. In any new VW, made say after 2000, going 85 feels like you are going 55. Every person I have *ever* had in the car say that, even Japanese car owners.
I was going to buy another Japanese car...but then test drove a VW - *completely on a whim* - and bought it on the SPOT. It's a fantastic car for the money, really!
Posted by Snake | July 19, 2007 11:51 AM
Posted on July 19, 2007 11:51
comment: "Since the market for hatchbacks is very small in the United States"
response: Yeah, the US is too focused on Pickup Trucks and SUVs.
comment: "they are deciding to neglect the U.S. market.
response: "They" are Americans themselves. It's VWOA that decided not to import them.
comment: "It seems like we never get any of the cool cars. Arg"
response: With the pickup truck and SUV attitude (and sales record), the fixation on large V8s, the disregard for fuel efficiency, I wouldn't expect ANY cool cars in the US market.
Posted by Mandae | October 30, 2007 9:53 AM
Posted on October 30, 2007 09:53
To run with this a little bit, I'm seriously disappointed that the Scirocco won't be making a comeback, but as far as VW reliability goes, I can only track it down to one reason: Production Facility.
From 1992-present, The extreme majority of Jettas and Golfs sold in the U.S. have been built at VW's plant in Mexico (GTI's have been made in various facilities, including Brazil, but many in Mexico as well) - coincidentally, those are also the years that you see such awful reliability ratings and stupid problems in those cars.
Oh, and one quick thing: "Wolfsburg Edition" used to really mean "Wolfsburg Edition" - before 1993, Wolfsburg cars were made in, um, coincidentally, VW's plant in Wolfsburg, Germany - now "Wolfsburg Edition" means little more than a badge and some options.
Collectively, my wife and I have owned 8 Volkswagen cars, and here are my thoughts on what a difference the production facility makes:
First, we've owned four Wolfsburg Edition Jettas made in VW's Wolfsburg, Germany plant (1987 GLi 8v, 1987 GLi 16v (still driving), 1990 GL 8v, 1991 GL Coupe 8v) - All of these were (and are) EXCELLENT cars - simple, very economical, very reliable, German built to precision, and very fun to drive - they can't be killed easily and I'm still driving my 87 GLi 16v 80 miles a day to & from work!
On the other hand though, we've also had:
One Brazilian made Fox (1988 GL) - absolute nightmare, left me stranded many times (fuel pump, starter, electrical issues) until I finally got fed up and sold it off
One Mexican made GTI (1998 VR6) - another awful car where we saw the most stupid failures, like an emissions air pump dying (and needing to completely dismantle the front end to replace it), factory alarm (which armed while driving), windows that would roll down while driving on their own, and other dumb things, such as the clutch pedal spring (which resets the hydraulic clutch pedal) literally "falling out on the floor" while driving.
One Mexican made Jetta (2005 GLS) - this one wasn't so bad, but it was a lease and the dealer never quite could find out why her check engine light would come on and go off so regularly...
And lastly, we currently have a Mexican made Jetta (2008 SE) - another lease, and so far so good, no issues, and though I'm still skeptical about VW's Mexican cars, the quality of production in this one is remarkably better than the A4 Jetta we leased in 2005.
Beyond all that, two of my close friends have also had trouble with the following VW's: a 1995 mexican-made Jetta GL (oil pump blew up, spewing oil and starting a fire), a 2003 20th anniversary GTI (clutch & electronics issues, over $2000 to repair)
So I guess the lesson here is: VW cars can be great, and while we've lucked out OK with the last 2 Mexican VW leases, if I was ever to buy a VW, you can bet I would insist that it's made in Germany (such as the new Rabbit) - coincidentally, that's why we went with another lease as opposed to purchasing this past December - they didn't have any Rabbits in stock in my area when my wife's last lease was up.
Just my thoughts... I still like VW a lot, and would still take them over any American car (as much as I wish American car makers would change my mind on that) and Japanese car as well (simply because of how nice they are to drive as opposed to Japanese cars in the same price range), you just have to do a little research first.
Posted by Snacks | March 27, 2008 10:36 AM
Posted on March 27, 2008 10:36
To run with this a little bit, I'm seriously disappointed that the Scirocco won't be making a comeback, but as far as VW reliability goes, I can only track it down to one reason: Production Facility.
From 1992-present, The extreme majority of Jettas and Golfs sold in the U.S. have been built at VW's plant in Mexico (GTI's have been made in various facilities, including Brazil, but many in Mexico as well) - coincidentally, those are also the years that you see such awful reliability ratings and stupid problems in those cars.
Oh, and one quick thing: "Wolfsburg Edition" used to really mean "Wolfsburg Edition" - before 1993, Wolfsburg cars were made in, um, coincidentally, VW's plant in Wolfsburg, Germany - now "Wolfsburg Edition" means little more than a badge and some options.
Collectively, my wife and I have owned 8 Volkswagen cars, and here are my thoughts on what a difference the production facility makes:
First, we've owned four Wolfsburg Edition Jettas made in VW's Wolfsburg, Germany plant (1987 GLi 8v, 1987 GLi 16v (still driving), 1990 GL 8v, 1991 GL Coupe 8v) - All of these were (and are) EXCELLENT cars - simple, very economical, very reliable, German built to precision, and very fun to drive - they can't be killed easily and I'm still driving my 87 GLi 16v 80 miles a day to & from work!
On the other hand though, we've also had:
One Brazilian made Fox (1988 GL) - absolute nightmare, left me stranded many times (fuel pump, starter, electrical issues) until I finally got fed up and sold it off
One Mexican made GTI (1998 VR6) - another awful car where we saw the most stupid failures, like an emissions air pump dying (and needing to completely dismantle the front end to replace it), factory alarm (which armed while driving), windows that would roll down while driving on their own, and other dumb things, such as the clutch pedal spring (which resets the hydraulic clutch pedal) literally "falling out on the floor" while driving.
One Mexican made Jetta (2005 GLS) - this one wasn't so bad, but it was a lease and the dealer never quite could find out why her check engine light would come on and go off so regularly...
And lastly, we currently have a Mexican made Jetta (2008 SE) - another lease, and so far so good, no issues, and though I'm still skeptical about VW's Mexican cars, the quality of production in this one is remarkably better than the A4 Jetta we leased in 2005.
Beyond all that, two of my close friends have also had trouble with the following VW's: a 1995 mexican-made Jetta GL (oil pump blew up, spewing oil and starting a fire), a 2003 20th anniversary GTI (clutch & electronics issues, over $2000 to repair)
So I guess the lesson here is: VW cars can be great, and while we've lucked out OK with the last 2 Mexican VW leases, if I was ever to buy a VW, you can bet I would insist that it's made in Germany (such as the new Rabbit) - coincidentally, that's why we went with another lease as opposed to purchasing this past December - they didn't have any Rabbits in stock in my area when my wife's last lease was up.
Just my thoughts... I still like VW a lot, and would still take them over any American car (as much as I wish American car makers would change my mind on that) and Japanese car as well (simply because of how nice they are to drive as opposed to Japanese cars in the same price range), you just have to do a little research first.
Posted by Snacks | March 27, 2008 10:37 AM
Posted on March 27, 2008 10:37
FYI: True Volkswagen/America doesn't want the Scirocco here in the U.S...........but Volkswagen/Germany (the bosses) will make the final decision soon so stand by and pray they say yes.
Posted by Jimbo | May 23, 2008 11:07 AM
Posted on May 23, 2008 11:07