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Apparently the environmentally friendly Toyota Prius has failed emissions tests in the state of Georgia. 2007 is the first year that drivers of the 2004 Prius are required to get emissions tests and drivers of the cars are finding out they are not passing the tests.
It is ironic that the "green" car is failing emissions tests, but it is not an issue with the car, instead of with the actual testing equipment in Georgia. When the car is set to 2,500 rpm during the test, the engine automatically shuts off. Something that the car is designed to do, during normal driving. Since the equipment is not designed for this, it states the test as incomplete and gives the car a failing grade.
Rather than fix their equipment, the state of Georgia charges the owners $25 for an "aborted test". That allows the drivers to then go to one of five centers where they can get a waiver for the new license plates.
So instead of fixing the issue and not causing extra stress to the drivers of the Prius, they would rather charge them an extra $25 for being environmentally friendly...interesting...
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Comments (17)
Fire thier butts and let someone with a brain take thier job.
Posted by Biil Owens | April 17, 2007 1:07 AM
Posted on April 17, 2007 01:07
Fixing the equipment could be done in a day. Getting the bureaucrats to create a new protocol to use updated equipment and fitting it into somebody's budget... good luck.
Posted by Mo | April 17, 2007 8:44 AM
Posted on April 17, 2007 08:44
You ignorant fools.
Biil you should be fired for not being able to spell words that are taught in First Grade. On that note, I strongly suspect your name is Bill.
Mo, I would love to see you go out and fix the testing equipment in a day. If only everything in this world was as easy to fix, we would live in a very different world, won't we?
I am not being cynical. I suggest that you think before you speak, or type anything on the internet.
Posted by Oh my god | April 17, 2007 9:53 AM
Posted on April 17, 2007 09:53
To Oh my God:
For a guy with a lot to say you pretty much said nothing. Here we have an article talking about the Toyota Prius and not once did you mention anything about it. Instead you criticized those who actually had something to say, even if not the most educated response.
"Mo, I would love to see you go out and fix the testing equipment in a day. If only everything in this world was as easy to fix, we would live in a very different world, won't we?"
The fact that you don't know anything about Mo or the equipment that he's talking about suggest to me that "you" should be the one to think before you type. You probably couldn’t do it if you had 10,000 years to do it. I would like for ignorant people like you to stay off the internet if you have nothing good to say at all. Please stick to the topic or shut up.
About the topic, I think this is wrong. Here we are trying to encourage people to switch to more environmentally safe vehicles and what does out great Gov't do? Make people pay more. It's always about making money isn't it, kinda makes you wonder how is it that we have a deficit with all these little crappy things we pay. Firing is not always the solution; it's not the employee's fault that's how the system works. I do think people need to be more vocal about these kinds of things instead of just sitting around and reading what the media says and hope the Gov't sees this story as well and do something about it. People should know that unless it's financially beneficial in some way, the Gov’t won’t lift a finger unless otherwise necessary or obligated.
Just my 2 cents.
Posted by Charles | April 17, 2007 10:57 AM
Posted on April 17, 2007 10:57
I'm just annoyed by the headline. Makes it sound like the Prius has a problem, but as usual, it's the bleepin' gubberment that does.
Hurray for missleading headlines!? This kind of crap is why I don't watch the "news" on TV...
Posted by Dave G | April 17, 2007 11:29 AM
Posted on April 17, 2007 11:29
Yes. Always when I am driving my Prius the engine cuts out at 2500 RPMs. And they do teach commas in first grade. You are all pussies.
Posted by buttface | April 17, 2007 11:37 AM
Posted on April 17, 2007 11:37
This is just ignorance - but remember, "ignorance can be cured, but stupidity is forever."
The Prius has an emissions testing mode that keeps the engine running. The procedure for entering it is straightforward if a bit baroque; it involves repeatedly pressing the accelerator and shifting gears.
Or you can just turn on the defroster and put the temperature on "max hot." That will keep the engine running continuously.
I can't imagine why Georgia's testing personnel don't know about this. Nor can I imagine why a journalist's natural curiosity and research wouldn't turn up this information.
Posted by Prius Driver | April 17, 2007 1:38 PM
Posted on April 17, 2007 13:38
Charles,
Read the first two posts again. And then tell me if they were thoughtful.
"Fire thier butts. Fix the equipment in one day."
I do not know anything about Mo nor do I have any intention of knowing Mo.
Read my post again. Nowhere in my post did I ever say that I could fix the emission testing equipment better than Mo or anyone else. I also did not claim expertise on "emission testing equipment". I can only logically assume that you have a problem reading. Stop reading what you want to read.
Now Charles, you must be one of those people that seem to care about our environment and would do anything to save the environment as long as you are compensated or given an incentive to do it.
Stop whining about how you are not getting any monetary compensation. Stop wanting recognition for saving the environment. Just do it.
Government makes you pay more? Is it asking you for an arm and a leg? Before you start blaming the government make sure you are doing EVERYTHING you can about the environment first. Don't blame because you want to blame.
Take your two cents back.
Posted by Oh my god | April 18, 2007 10:27 AM
Posted on April 18, 2007 10:27
Oh My God,
"Read the first two posts again. And then tell me if they were thoughtful."
They were actually about the topic, unlike your post.
"Read my post again. Nowhere in my post did I ever say that I could fix the emission testing equipment better than Mo or anyone else. I also did not claim expertise on "emission testing equipment"."
If you don't have any expertise then don't comment on something you know nothing about. You were the one who said " I would love to see you go out and fix the testing equipment in a day". That would indicate taht you know about these systems and that you seem to be aware that it can't be done in 1 day.
You start off by insulting people you don't know about a topic you know nothing about and didn't even bother to comment on the topic itself, then you get mad when someone throws it at your face? It seems that the only real ignorant fool here is you.
"Now Charles, you must be one of those people that seem to care about our environment and would do anything to save the environment as long as you are compensated or given an incentive to do it."
Ever heard what they say about people who assume? I care, but in a world where very few actually give a damn I chose to be a careful as I can be. I'm not gonna spend my life trying to save a world that no one really cares about anyways. I do what I can, I try not to add to the problem, but even I can't avoid it at all times. I need my car to work in order to feed my family, pay my bills, pay a roof over our heads and once in a while have some fun. With my wage I can't do that while paying for a car that has much less if hardly any emmisions when 90% of the rest of the cars out there, new and used, make up for what I may not be emmitting. When a world wide plan is developed that will solve this problem on a grand scale then I may be up to putting out money for it, but don't expect me to pay so much for an enviromentally safe car while everyone else replace their 2 door compacts for 4 door, 8 seating, 24 cup holders, 6 cylinder, 400 hp, 20 miles to the gallon SUV's.
"Stop whining about how you are not getting any monetary compensation. Stop wanting recognition for saving the environment. Just do it."
I guess it takes a whinner to know a whinner. I need no compensation, all I need is to be assured that my money is being put to good use and not paying for politicians entertainment and unnecessary bills. Grow up, you wanna make a difference, stop pointing out graphical errors and voice you concerns to those in the Gov't.
"Government makes you pay more? Is it asking you for an arm and a leg?"
Since when does the Gov't ask?They take and you know what they just fall short of my arm and leg. Then again ask those soldiers in Iraq this same question. I'm sure arms and legs are not all they have given to their Govt.
"Before you start blaming the government make sure you are doing EVERYTHING you can about the environment first. Don't blame because you want to blame."
Before you start crying online when someone insults you, get a clue. The fact that you responded to my post indicates that your post was ment to get a response and you were watching to see who would say something to you. You just didn't expect it to be someone other that those who you insulted. Now your going crazy trying to insult me and in the end you still had nothing to say about the article itself. Why do you even bother posting? It's not like you have anything intelligent to say or add. Get a life.
And I'll take my 2 cents back. But I'll leave you with my wisdom, while priceless I'm willing to share it.
Posted by Charles | April 18, 2007 11:33 AM
Posted on April 18, 2007 11:33
Charles,
You are not reading again. Never once did I indicate anywhere in my previous posts that I know anything about the emission testing equipment. Mo is the one who said "it's fixable in one day" which implies that he knows more about the equipment more than the ones involved in designing them in the first place. I was, however, the first one to indicate that Mo was being ignorant and did not actually care about the topic by saying what he or she said. You were just trolling. Mad at the fact that you saw the word "ignorant" and "fool" used in a same sentence and somehow you felt affected. Not my problem.
You accuse me of making hastly and fault assumptions. You said that I "couldn’t do it if you had 10,000 years to do it" to fix the machine. You said that everyone in the world except yourself had "4 door, 8 seating, 24 cup holders, 6 cylinder, 400 hp, 20 miles to the gallon SUV's." And also don't forget: "90% of the rest of the cars out there, new and used, make up for what I may not be emmitting." Or even "don't expect me to pay so much for an enviromentally safe car." I don't expect you to get an environmentally safe car. What is the matter with you?
"The fact that you responded to my post indicates that your post was ment to get a response and you were watching to see who would say something to you."
You are the first one to leave a feedback for my comments.
It is ironic how you mentioned the war with Iraq. Soldiers choose to be soldiers in the United States. They were not forced to go to Iraq in the first place. They are trained to take orders from their superiors and preserving the chain-of-command is of an utmost importance to them. I will not go into details as to what war is and the whole Iraq situation, but I will say this. They are the true patriots for giving their everything for their country and that's why they signed up for it. You sound as though you can fudge the Iraq issue in your conversation and somehow use their sacrifice to your advantage.
Take your priceless wisdom back. Oh, and stop assuming and think that your wisdom is priceless. That's a pretty bold statement for anyone.
Posted by Oh my god | April 18, 2007 12:06 PM
Posted on April 18, 2007 12:06
"You are not reading again. Never once did I indicate anywhere in my previous posts that I know anything about the emission testing equipment. Mo is the one who said "it's fixable in one day" which implies that he knows more about the equipment more than the ones involved in designing them in the first place. I was, however, the first one to indicate that Mo was being ignorant and did not actually care about the topic by saying what he or she said. You were just trolling. Mad at the fact that you saw the word "ignorant" and "fool" used in a same sentence and somehow you felt affected. Not my problem."
My point exactly, you never said anything about knowing about these systems yet you dared Mo to do it as if you somehow knew it could not be done. Stop implying that you never said anything when you did. BTW, a takes a troll to know a troll.
"You accuse me of making hastly and fault assumptions. You said that I "couldn’t do it if you had 10,000 years to do it" to fix the machine. "
Correction, I said propably. That is not an assumption.
"You said that everyone in the world except yourself had "4 door, 8 seating, 24 cup holders, 6 cylinder, 400 hp, 20 miles to the gallon SUV's.""
First off I never said world and second don't be so ignorant, you know what I meant. I can't stand literal people like you. Are you so ignorant that things have to be written in specifics to make a point? Stupidity at it's finest.
"And also don't forget: "90% of the rest of the cars out there, new and used, make up for what I may not be emmitting." "
Again taking things literally.
"Or even "don't expect me to pay so much for an enviromentally safe car." I don't expect you to get an environmentally safe car. What is the matter with you?"
I guess when you said : "Before you start blaming the government make sure you are doing EVERYTHING you can about the environment first. Don't blame because you want to blame." you didn't actually mean it, especially when you used caps, right? Shame on you.
"You are the first one to leave a feedback for my comments."
Isn't that what I said? It's what you were waiting for, just not from me. Now here you are calling me everything you are. Trolling, ignorant, etc.
"It is ironic how you mentioned the war with Iraq. Soldiers choose to be soldiers in the United States. They were not forced to go to Iraq in the first place. They are trained to take orders from their superiors and preserving the chain-of-command is of an utmost importance to them. I will not go into details as to what war is and the whole Iraq situation, but I will say this. They are the true patriots for giving their everything for their country and that's why they signed up for it. You sound as though you can fudge the Iraq issue in your conversation and somehow use their sacrifice to your advantage."
LOL, you are a funny fellow. So I guess that's not what you just did right? You give "hypocrit" a whole new meaning. Soldiers do what they do cause they believe it's the right thing to do, I'm sad to say the Gov't does not work the same way. But because it is our Gov't that controls our Armed Forces, our boys over in Iraq are being asked to give life and limbs for a worthless cause, which I am sad that I took too long to realize. They are true Patriots, however, not joining the Armed Forces does not make me any less of a Patriot. Not everyone was ment to fight. BTW, once again you continue to assume things while accusing me of doing the same. Maybe you should learn to take your own advice: "Oh, and stop assuming ".
"Take your priceless wisdom back."
No appreciation.
" Oh, and stop assuming and think that your wisdom is priceless. That's a pretty bold statement for anyone."
I guess you don't know what being an American is really all about. I am bold (which is what bothers you the most), I have wisdom and I believe it's pricesless. What you think of it or how you value it does not matter. It is how I see it that counts.
Keep in mind you have posted many times and you have yet to say anything about the article which I have pointed out to you just about every time.
I said it once and I'll say it again. It is wrong to make people pay more money than they already pay when they go out of their way to help the enviroment. Money is not the solution, the problem is still there except they are just making an extra $25 off of people who are trying to make a difference. Nothing like having to pay extra to do the right thing. Maybe people should be charged a fee every time they call 911, or maybe people should pay a fee every time they drive speed limit, stop at every stop sign, use turning signals, use energy efficient appliances, use less water, recycle, carpool and maybe even when they make donations to charity.
Posted by Charles | April 18, 2007 1:40 PM
Posted on April 18, 2007 13:40
No more, these post are getting rediculously long. I made my point, I will not respond to any replies anymore.
Posted by Charles | April 18, 2007 1:41 PM
Posted on April 18, 2007 13:41
Correction, I said propably. That is not an assumption.
First off I never said world and second don't be so ignorant, you know what I meant. I can't stand literal people like you. Are you so ignorant that things have to be written in specifics to make a point? Stupidity at it's finest.
Maybe I need you to flat out spell out what you are trying to tell me. Mo first blurted out that an emission testing equipment can be fixed, or in this case, tailored to recognize Prius' special circumstance. If Mo was even a little bit less ignorant he would surely understand or at least be able to identify that the industrial and the business procedures involved in designing, building, fixing and maintaining a machine of such scale would be anything but minuscule. But no, Mo decided to say wtf and just assumed that it was such a simple process that it can be done in one day, thereby completely disregarding the effort and time of the people involved in the industry as well as the grandeur and the scope of its operation.
I would have taken my time to say all this to Mo but apparently you are the one who needs this explanation.
Please, be kind and helpful as you have shown in your previous posts, to tell me that I am more ignorant than Mo, because you still have not. You seem to accuse me of not contributing to the subject of the article, but I do not possess sufficient knowledge nor the experience to discuss the technical aspects of it. But I can reply to Mo to not to troll, just as you are trying very hard, and unsuccessfully, to tell me.
You seem to be trying to take a refuge behind the fact that you like to exaggerate, and that I am taking everything literally, and that I should not take you very seriously.
If you were going to exaggerate, or did not want to be taken literally, why did you not say 25000 hp, 24 cylinders, a back-seat microwave and a kichenette, a ballroom to accomodate 100 partygoers in the trunk, a fuel tank the size of an oilrig and such? Does my previous statement sound comical to you as your previous posts did to me?
Please, please, and please stop talking about the soldiers and the cause of war. Just stop, and you know why. If even half the troops started questioning the validity of their mission...
You are irate for the wrong reasons. I did call Mo ignorant because Mo is. You cannot blame me for being ignorant because you did not understand what I meant in the first place.
If you have your own conspiracy theory about how the government is trying to rip you off and take you for everything you've got, and that the government is just one big inanimate, irresponsible organization, then what can I say. Go to a government-less country? Perhaps promote anarchy? You make it sound as though government is picking on Prius owners and that they are making them pay extra for owning an environment-concious vehicle. It is simply a glitch in the testing machine. Rather than blaming the government perhaps you can present a real solution to the problem the article presents.
Finally, the most ignorant statement in all your posts is:
I guess you don't know what being an American is really all about. I am bold (which is what bothers you the most), I have wisdom and I believe it's pricesless. What you think of it or how you value it does not matter. It is how I see it that counts.
That one statement just contradicts everything you have said so far. I just looked up the word ignorant in 3 different dictionaries just to make sure I had the right meaning, and all 3 of them showed me the above quote. Word by word. Oh yeah, don't take it literally, by the way. Because What you think of it or how you value it does not matter. It is how I see it that counts.
Posted by Oh my god | April 18, 2007 3:04 PM
Posted on April 18, 2007 15:04
welcome to america, land of the lazy and brain dead...
Posted by acitydweller | June 1, 2007 3:12 PM
Posted on June 1, 2007 15:12
My, my. So much hostility, anger, contemptious behavior and lack of generosity. Please check below where you post your vitrolic diatribe and note that this site is indeed tgpublishing which is part of bestofmedia LLC. May I plead that you all consider your behavior as less than polite, not to mention very little is said in substance to the article.
Posted by Chill | October 13, 2007 12:16 AM
Posted on October 13, 2007 00:16
i think people are forgetting that it hasn't actually failed, and the owners are being charged for no reason.
Posted by mark | November 9, 2007 9:10 PM
Posted on November 9, 2007 21:10
have any of you been behind a Toyota new or old attempting to climb a mountain? they all smell like sulfur and god only knows what else is spewing from those Casi-mobiles. you'd have to pay me to drive anything Toyota. there money hungry and i think it's wrong that we are so blind/protective about it. maybe we should have Toyota pay for the reconstruction of emission testing machinery, they seem to be in a very good supply of cash these days. or how bout, who really cares that a pruis driver has to pay extra? with all that money they save, who should? Americans are ignorant, pathetic yuppies. i don't care where they are "made" would you really believe the money for one of those cars stays here and assists our economy so we can be better informed as to how we will remain a major global trader capable of producing a quality product? I'd bet you probably do... because we're arrogant, insolent, idiots. get a clue. or maybe we should be the ones to be "Thinking ahead." ever think of that?
how bout that, 80 y.o.'s driving Camry's around flying there goddamn flags about as if they are really so proud, with there Vietnam veteran stickers, ext. and all... gimme a break. I'm 19 and want to slap my mother every time she gets in her pretty brand new Honda. reliability this, reliability that. yeah i won't disagree, they definitely are. but wouldn't you agree that there is some explanation for that? i have a couple to keep it minimal:
1: look at japan or south Korea (even Europe for that matter), in comparison to America. small island, densely populated (no need to wonder how we're going to get a world class mechanic over to get my new hydrogen project going, he lives in the apartment accost the street 13 floors up bamboo style shit.). and with a high population to feed, low resources, hmm, someone better be "thinking ahead"
2: take a look at America, aside from the oil problem, we are able to live off the fat of the land and for the most part, be an independent nation, allowing us to do what other than, be ignorant and boastful with a high touch of control. this has never made sense to me b-4 and probably never will. where do we get off acting the way we do? so what I'm getting at here is why doesn't gm, ford, Chrysler and the lot get there shit together? because they don't have too, real typical. i wonder what would happen if Toyota and Honda suddenly decided they didn't give a shit anymore, hmm, whatever would become of all those intelligent Japanese people and their family's? I'm sure there government wouldn't put up with that... so why does ours? GM ford and Chrysler need a swift kick in their asses just like the American consumer. i pray every night for the sake of our riches and well being that we WAKE UP and make more informed decisions, before we are left explaining ourselves to a group of aggressors that are sick of our shit. it all comes back to us and our decisions as a powerful nation and it's influence on the rest of the world.
Posted by yeahyeah | January 28, 2008 4:39 PM
Posted on January 28, 2008 16:39